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The Next Phase of Marketing Automation: Lessons from Dreamforce and HubSpot

The Next Phase of Marketing Automation: Lessons from Dreamforce and HubSpot

Update: 2025-10-23
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In this episode of the Marketing Automation Moment podcast, Hannah Kelly and Mike Maynard explore whether marketing automation as we know it is truly over. They break down Salesforce’s decision to cut 4,000 support roles while adding 5,000 sales positions, share key takeaways from Dreamforce, including AI agents and deeper Slack integration, and take a closer look at HubSpot’s new loop marketing concept.


The episode wraps up with guidance on recognizing when a campaign isn’t working and how to adjust.


 


About Napier


Napier is a PR-lead, full service marketing agency that specialises in the B2B technology sector. We work closely with our clients to build campaigns, focusing on achieving results that have a significant positive impact on their businesses and which, above all, ensure maximum return on their investment.


 


About Mike Maynard


Mike is the Managing Director/CEO of Napier, a PR and marketing agency for B2B technology companies. A self-confessed geek who loves talking about technology, he believes that combining the measurement, accountability and innovation that he learnt as an engineer with a passion for communicating ensures Napier delivers great campaigns and tangible return on investment.


 


About Hannah Kelly


Hannah is the Head of Business Development and Marketing at Napier and leads on pitching, proposal writing, lead nurturing, email marketing, social media and content creation. Hannah joined the Napier team back in 2017 as a Marketing Specialist after completing her degree in Marketing and Communications, and her role focuses on developing new relationships with potential clients.


 


Time Stamps


00:00:00 - Introduction to Marketing Automation Moment Podcast

00:01:10 - Active Campaign's Bold Statement on Marketing Automation

00:03:00 - Salesforce's Controversial Staffing Changes

00:05:50 - Insights from Dreamforce: AI and Slack

00:08:06 - HubSpot's Loop Marketing Concept

00:11:01 - When to Give Up on a Campaign: Insights and Tips

00:15:27 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts


 


Follow Mike and Hannah:


Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/


Hannah Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-kelly-b0706a107/?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAABriH7cBjOKakLTry2oZpPzoqKYXgLp0ttY


Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/


Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/


If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to our podcast for more discussions about the latest in Marketing Automation and connect with us on social media to stay updated on upcoming episodes. We’d also appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favourite podcast platform.


Want more? Check out Napier’s other podcast – Marketing B2B Technology: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/marketing-b2b-technology/id1485417724

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The Next Phase of Marketing Automation: Lessons from Dreamforce and HubSpot

The Next Phase of Marketing Automation: Lessons from Dreamforce and HubSpot

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