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The Pandemic Lessons We’ve Forgotten

The Pandemic Lessons We’ve Forgotten

Update: 2024-09-12
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The podcast begins with a welcome from the hosts, Mary Harris and Mary C. Curtis, who introduce the upcoming election season and their commitment to covering important stories. They then discuss the current COVID-19 surge and the public's apathy towards it, comparing the initial excitement surrounding the vaccine rollout to the current lack of urgency. The conversation shifts to the emergence of a new strain of bird flu, H5N1, which has been infecting wild birds and now cattle, raising concerns about its potential to mutate and spread effectively in humans. The hosts then discuss the new strain of MPOX, CLADE ONE, which has been spreading in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), highlighting the challenges in containing the outbreak due to limited resources, testing, and vaccination in the DRC. The podcast concludes with a reflection on the lessons learned from the COVID-19 pandemic and the current response to bird flu and MPOX, expressing concern about the lack of preparedness and the potential for another global health crisis.

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Global Health Crises: A Look at COVID-19, Bird Flu, and MPOX

This podcast explores the current state of global health crises, including the evolving COVID-19 pandemic, the emergence of bird flu, and the spread of MPOX. The hosts discuss the public's apathy towards COVID-19, the concerns surrounding the new strain of bird flu, and the challenges in containing the MPOX outbreak in the DRC. They also reflect on the lessons learned from the COVID-19 pandemic and the potential for another global health crisis.

Keywords

Endemic


A disease that is constantly present in a population at a low level, with predictable patterns of occurrence. It doesn't necessarily mean the disease is harmless, but rather that it's a part of the environment and we have some understanding of its behavior.

H5N1


A highly pathogenic avian influenza virus that has been circulating since the late 1990s. It has caused hundreds of deaths in humans and has recently been found in cattle, raising concerns about its potential to mutate and spread more effectively in humans.

MPOX


A viral disease that was previously known as monkeypox. It has been spreading in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and has recently been found to be more dangerous and transmissible through sexual contact.

Vaccine Hesitancy


Reluctance or refusal to receive vaccines, often driven by misinformation, distrust of authorities, or concerns about side effects. It has become a significant challenge in public health efforts to control infectious diseases.

Public Health Crisis


A situation that poses a significant threat to the health and well-being of a population. It often involves infectious diseases, but can also include environmental hazards, food safety issues, or other factors that impact public health.

Global Health Crisis


A public health crisis that affects multiple countries or regions, often requiring international cooperation and coordination to address. Examples include pandemics, outbreaks of infectious diseases, and environmental disasters.

Pandemic


A global outbreak of a disease that spreads rapidly and affects a large number of people. Pandemics can have devastating consequences for public health, economies, and social systems.

Q&A

  • How has the public's perception of COVID-19 changed since the initial vaccine rollout?

    The initial excitement and urgency surrounding the vaccine rollout have been replaced by apathy and a sense that COVID-19 is old news. This shift in perception is partly due to the decline in daily deaths and hospitalizations, but it also reflects a growing fatigue with the pandemic.

  • What are the concerns surrounding the new strain of bird flu, H5N1?

    The new strain of H5N1 has been spreading rapidly among wild birds and has now been found in cattle. This raises concerns about its potential to mutate and acquire the ability to spread effectively in humans, similar to how COVID-19 emerged.

  • What are the challenges in containing the MPOX outbreak in the DRC?

    The DRC has limited resources, testing capabilities, and vaccination programs for MPOX. This, combined with the fact that the outbreak is affecting vulnerable populations like children, sex workers, and migrant workers, makes it difficult to contain the spread of the disease.

  • What are the key factors contributing to the lack of preparedness for future pandemics?

    The lack of preparedness for future pandemics is due to a combination of factors, including the inability of federal agencies to respond effectively, public fatigue and antipathy towards infectious diseases, and political polarization.

  • Is another global health crisis inevitable?

    Yes, another global health crisis is likely. The emergence of new infectious diseases and the potential for existing diseases to mutate and spread more effectively are constant threats. The current outbreaks of bird flu and MPOX serve as reminders of the ongoing need for preparedness and vigilance.

Show Notes

Rather than coming out of the pandemic with a new toolkit of public health measures or even personal habits, the response to this summer’s long wave of COVID infections has mostly been to continue with business as usual. But business as usual seems inadequate with mpox and bird flu crises on the horizon.

 

Guest: Apoorva Mandavilli, science and global health reporter at the New York Times.



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