One of the hopeful things in the aftermath of the Los Angeles fires is how I have seen people within L.A. show up with and for each other. And I'm especially grateful for this audience because I know you are all people who care to show up with people, and for people. Thank you for being light in these hard times.

Show Notes (from the episode page of For the Life of the World)

In this conversation, Pam King and Jamie Aten join Evan Rosa to discuss:

• Each of their personal encounters with disasters—both fire and cancer


• The psychological study of disaster


• The personal impact of disaster on mental, emotional, and spiritual health


• The difference between resilience and fortitude


• And the theological and practical considerations for how to live through disastrous events.

About Pam King

Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. She hosts the With & For podcast, and you can follow her @drpamking.

About Jamie Aten

Jamie D. Aten is a disaster psychologist and disaster ministry expert. He helps others navigate mass, humanitarian, and personal disasters with scientific and spiritual insights. He is the Founder and Executive Director of the Humanitarian Disaster Institute and Disaster Ministry Conference and holds the Blanchard Chair of Humanitarian & Disaster Leadership at Wheaton College. And he’s the author of A Walking Disaster: What Surviving Katrina and Cancer Taught Me about Faith and Resilience.

Show Notes

• Humanitarian Disaster Institute


• Spiritual First Aid


• Jamie Aten’s A Walking Disaster: What Surviving Katrina and Cancer Taught Me about Faith and Resilience
  


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  The Thrive Center at Fuller Seminary

• Humanitarian Disaster Institute


• Spiritual First Aid

Production Notes

• This podcast featured Jamie Aten and Pam King


• Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa


• Hosted by Evan Rosa


• Production Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, Zoë Halaban, Kacie Barrett & Emily Brookfield


• A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School **https://faith.yale.edu/about**
  


• Support For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: **https://faith.yale.edu/give**
  

About the Thrive Center

• Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.


• Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
  


• Follow us on X @thrivecenter
  


• Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter
  

About Dr. Pam King

Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.  Follow her @drpamking.

About With & For

• Host: Pam King


• Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook


• Operations Manager: Lauren Kim


• Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.