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The Rescuer Trap: Treehouse of Sadness: Codependency and Depression

The Rescuer Trap: Treehouse of Sadness: Codependency and Depression

Update: 2025-11-26
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This episode features guest hosts Dr. Scott Waltman and Kasey Pierce, authors of the forthcoming book The Rescuer Trap. Kasey breaks the silence with a six-word confession. She and Scott then explore the painful truth of codependency: when you jump into the quicksand of a partner’s depression to save them, the inevitable result is sinking yourself.

Are you the fixer, the over-giver, the emotional first responder for everyone but yourself? Welcome to The Rescuer Trap. We playfully own the labels “Parentified and Codependent” to make a point: these are not identities, but learned behaviors.

And what can be learned can be unlearned. Hosts Dr. Scott Waltman and Kasey Pierce use Stoic philosophy and CBT to give you the tools to break the cycle and reclaim your autonomy. Your escape from the trap starts here. Based on the forthcoming book, The Rescuer Trap (New Harbinger).

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The Rescuer Trap: Treehouse of Sadness: Codependency and Depression

The Rescuer Trap: Treehouse of Sadness: Codependency and Depression

Kasey Pierce and Scott Waltman PsyD ABPP