In this episode, Michelle interviews Hanna Kok, a coach with over 30 years of experience in body mind spirit connection, who focuses on how forgiveness affects health. Hannah explains her approach to managing menopause symptoms through emotional healing and forgiveness work rather than diet and exercise alone. She shares client success stories and shares forgiveness techniques we can all use. Hanna also challenges listeners to view health from an emotional perspective and be open to new ways of healing.

Hanna Kok Reveals:

• Her energy allocation theory

• How she guides clients to use "mirrors" to identify what needs healing within themselves rather than holding grudges.

• Why we all resist self-forgiveness and its necessity for healing.

• Common misconceptions about what forgiveness actually means

• An emotional stress release technique that activates the prefrontal cortex and prevents self-destructive thought patterns

• Why Western cultural programming creates barriers to healing

• The immediate physical changes that can result from emotional release work

BEST MOMENTS

"We have as women, about 26 trillion listeners. That is, those are all the cells in our bodies being at our own cells, and half of that is also the microbes in our body."

"Holding a grudge is like drinking, trying to kill somebody while drinking the poison yourself."

"That irritating person just was a mirror, just gave you some feedback. Like Michelle... this is what you look like when you're disrespectful of yourself."

"I forgive you for being the perfect mirror. I forgive you for showing me what I need to change within me."

"Within three months of working with me... the bleeding completely stopped... She was off all allergy medication, no more painkillers. She had no pain."

"I'm just loving myself just because, just because I am valuable, just because, not even because I'm alive, not because I'm a child of God... it is just because."

EPISODE RESOURCES

Release and Relax meditation www.hannakok.com

The iThrive app. www.ithrive.zone.

https://ithrive.zone/35d-new

HOST BIO

Michelle is a highly respected Physiotherapist and Menopause Wellbeing Practitioner with over two decades of experience in the health and wellness industry. After experiencing seven years of debilitating symptoms herself before realising it was perimenopause, Michelle has since dedicated her career to helping other women navigate this transformative stage of life. Her personal journey fuels her passion for educating and empowering women, as well as training businesses and health professionals through her specialised menopause and wellbeing workshops. A best-selling author and sought-after speaker, Michelle combines deep clinical expertise with relatable, real-world experience. Through her podcast, "Menopause - The Real Deal," she offers evidence-based guidance, authentic conversations, and practical strategies. Listeners trust Michelle for her empathetic understanding and her commitment to helping women thrive, making her a leading voice in the menopause space.

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