This week, Joseph Spurgeon shares an unfiltered interview from Anatomy of the Church and State with host Jeremiah Campana. Together they tackle the controversial topic of the Crusades—the errors, the bravery, the eternal stakes—and what Christian men today must learn.

Was it all just Roman Catholic works-righteousness? Was it a defense of Christendom? What should modern men reclaim? What must we reject?

If you’ve ever fantasized about being a Crusader—but can’t show up for church or your family—this episode is for you.

Chapters & Timestamps:

00:00 – Cold Open: Godfrey of Bouillon and the Crown of Thorns

01:50 – Introduction: Sharing a Cross-Podcast Interview

03:20 – Jeremiah’s Introduction & Why the Crusades Matter Now

05:40 – Joseph’s Journey into Studying the Crusades

07:15 – The Liberal vs. Conservative Take on the Crusades

09:00 – What Was Bad About the Crusades? (Indulgences & Works-Righteousness)

13:40 – Why Protestants Should Still Care About This History

15:00 – Eternal Thinking: Why Even Their Errors Convict Us

17:00 – The Church and State Problem (What Went Wrong & What Was Right)

20:20 – Don't Pick Up the Sword If You Haven’t Picked Up Your Bible

22:00 – The Martial Spirit of the Crusaders—Why It Still Matters

24:00 – Real Sacrifice: Time, Wealth, and Blood

28:30 – How Do We Know a Mission Is From God?

30:00 – Godly Zeal Must Be Biblical, Not Rogue

32:30 – The Importance of Biblical Literacy for Men

34:50 – The Real Unity of the Church—And What Divides Us

39:00 – How Disunity Helped Destroy the Crusades

41:00 – Church and State: How Should They Work Together?

45:00 – We Don’t Need New Crusades—We Need Repentance

47:00 – How Local Action Can Change a Nation

51:00 – Final Charge: If You Can’t Love Your Church, Don’t Talk About Crusading

58:30 – Prayer & Close

Topics Covered:

✅ The theological errors behind the Crusades

✅ Why eternal-mindedness matters today

✅ The rightful role of the church and state

✅ How men can show martial spirit without physical warfare

✅ The need for local faithfulness before global impact

✅ What real unity in the church demands from us

✅ Why defending the unborn is the battle of our time

✅ Loving your neighbor starts at your local church

TAKE ACTION:

Don’t just learn—lead. Find a way this week to love your local church, engage your community, and honor Christ with zeal and truth.

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