Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into a provocative new hypothesis: Could some trans urges in humans be driven by the same evolutionary mechanism seen in other species — the “sneaky copulator” strategy? Low-status males in certain animals change their physiology to mimic females in order to infiltrate harems and reproduce covertly. Could a similar adaptive response explain elevated rates of extreme brutality, sadism, and aggression observed in trans respondents compared to cis counterparts (drawing from Aella’s massive dataset and historical sexology research)?

We explore:

* Why trans individuals show significantly higher interest in violent and brutal sexual categories

* Historical links between cross-dressing/transvestism and sadomasochism in early psychology

* How modern cultural signals of disempowerment might trigger these ancient fallback strategies

* Connections to mass shooters, sexual violence patterns, and more

This is a controversial, evidence-based exploration of human sexual adaptation — not hate, but an attempt to understand complex phenomena through evolutionary biology.

Episode Transcript:Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00 ] Anyway, so, the point that I’m making here is he might have actually been, ironically, right, the phenomenon that drives trans urges.

In humans might be the exact same phenomenon that drives trans physiological differences in other species. Wow.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. We have done a video in the past where we document with extensive notes how extremely overrepresented trans people are among mass shooters. And at the video we joke, you know, when somebody says I’m trans, they might as well be.

Speaker 7: Nice to meet you, . Listen, if you ever need anybody murdered. Please give me a call and you, you’re giving him card. No.

Code of ethics. I will kill anyone anywhere. Children, animals, old people, doesn’t matter. I just love killing

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Malcolm Collins: And in that video we go over some hypotheses on what could be causing this, but I have since dug into more research on this particular [00:01:00 ] topic, and I’m going to expand my hypotheses on this. In a way that expands an entirely new section of my hypothesis on human sexual behavior.

So specifically if you look at because ALA is the best source of data on this. If you look at like really, if you’re looking at any sort of data on sexuality. You either have to look at data sets that came from before the eighties because after that, you know, the, the gender police took over all of the gender science departments and they weren’t able to publish anything that made any of their preferred peoples potentially look questionable.

So you’re either looking at those data sets or alas which is why, just so people know her dataset is enormous.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Her sample sizes are. Extremely enviable. It’s, it’s

Malcolm Collins: around half a million responses, by the way. And people are like, oh, they’re, no. I think now I was just

Simone Collins: reading one of her pe it was in the 800 thousands now.

Malcolm Collins: Wow. Yeah. And, and people will say, oh, her data sets are highly biased. And I’m like, actually they’re not highly biased because she’s [00:02:00 ] normalizes them all the time. And she finds that they match mainstream statistics. And the vast

Simone Collins: majority of respondents are not her followers. Her survey has gone viral.

Several times on multiple different platforms. Plus it is really good SEO So again, that’s not it either.

Malcolm Collins: Sorry, I’m writing something I wanna ask her to add to the survey. Of same sex attracted people in heterosexual marriages because I love seeing their happiness and satisfaction rankings.

Simone Collins: That would be fascinating. Yes, I heard

Malcolm Collins: there was a study on this, but I haven’t been able to find it, so if I can get it from her dataset, that’d be awesome. But anyway, going to her dataset.

If we are looking at the brutality category which is defined as arousal from extreme violence in porn sex, EG Gores, if you’re beating, et cetera rated zero, not arousing to five very arousing.

If you look at cis min. The rating that you get for this is 0.23. If you look at trans men, it’s 0.83. Okay? [00:03:00 ] That’s different. Look at, if you look at cis women, it’s 0.21. If you look at trans women, it’s 0.58. So like off the charts higher in both cases, well over two times higher. And in I think

Simone Collins: really very small portions of

Malcolm Collins: each, around four x higher for men.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So what the heck’s going on here? Right? And then if you look at the percentage with at least. Some interest in that sort of stuff. For cis men, it’s 6%. For trans men, it’s 22%. For cis women, it’s 6%. For trans women, it’s 15%. Okay.

Simone Collins: Wow. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So, just some more notes on a-list study here before we go further on this.

‘cause I always find that fun. The rare cases were violent preference flips slightly male leaning overall, but trans respondents, especially trans men, pull it [00:04:00 ] way higher than cis baselines. Trans people in general score elevated on this for broader violent slash aggressive categories. EG.

Choking, slapping pain, humiliation, degradation, sadism, consensual non-consent. CSNC. Her data consistently shows women, cis plus trans women prefer this significantly over men, generally speaking. And trans respondents are elevated versus they’re cis counterparts in nearly all kink categories, but especially the aggressive ones.

Mm-hmm. With trans men frequently on the top of sadism and brutality and dominance sections. Mm. Categories like. Forced orgasms, choking, slapping, and pain are all female led with cis women being bigger than cis men. Now this is just the other thing that we are always mentioning on the show.

I really hate this myth that women are into weird, kinky stuff because men have twisted them in some way. That does not appear to be the case. No. I’m gonna go over quickly for those who don’t know my. The [00:05:00 ] rater versus caregiver arousal spectrum in males.

Oh.

So this is important to understand before we go further, because I’m going to be updating it. So what I pointed out is that historically men within monogamous societies, and we actually believe men and women have well, especially women, have a dynamic sexuality that flips when they believe they’re in a religionist society.

And they begin to desire different things from their partners. When they feel that like, and their biology is evolved to adapt to this, but men also have an evolved and adapted biology and there are different optimums that a man might be in. So for example, the way a woman would act if she happened to be born into a society that was ous is going to be very different from a genetic standpoint and optimal genetic standpoint that if she happens to be born in a society that is monogamous, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And this is why we argue that the more men a woman sleep with, the less oxytocin she gets from sex, meaning the less she is likely to sort of be forced to fall in [00:06:00 ] love with whoever she is sleeping with, because that becomes less beneficial as she, the more, the more ous, the more she’s being passed around.

And she, it’s not a good thing. You don’t want that happening. It’s going to lead to bad choices in, in regards to your reproductive success. But I also point out that men historically had two key environments especially successful men, in which the a preferable arousal pattern would’ve been entirely different.

Environment number one is, mm-hmm. They are in a monogamous relationship. So we’re, we’re talking about monogamous here. Obviously men don’t need that much adaption between monogamy and polygeny. By that what I mean is, a, a man generally will like his wife want to dedicate himself to her want to keep her safe even if he has multiple wives.

Yeah, he still benefits those wives are like his property basically, of keeping them safe and treating them gently. But then there’s a separate environment that was also [00:07:00 ] historically very important to male genetic fitness, which was when you are a rating, when you are a viking, when you are out on the battlefield or conquering a region.

In these scenarios you would want to adapt a very, very different sexual profile. And these are women who you see as disposable in your mind as a male. And we argue that actually a lot of current sort of male weirdness around sexuality or male sexual perversion comes from men beginning to define themselves by their sexuality at an age before they have a monogamous partner.

If they engage with their sexuality through pornography or erotic literature. And, all of these women in their brain are gonna be categorized as disposable. These women, their brain is going to categorize the same way. It would categorize a woman from a town that they had just conquered and were [00:08:00 ] Yeah, if they were raiding,

Simone Collins: yeah, if they were just a traveling raider or soldier.

Malcolm Collins: And so their brain is going to relate to these, or if they’re just sleeping around a ton in school, like suppose they’re like Chatty Von Ton or whate