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What Parental Leave is Actually Like

What Parental Leave is Actually Like

Update: 2025-08-04
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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss Kyle’s experience of paternity leave so far, what’s been the most surprising to him, and how he’s feeling about returning to his 9 to 5. 


00:00 Intro


01:32   Stats on maternity vs. paternity leave in the U.S.


05:02 Research on the impact of taking paternity leave on a father’s brain


08:11 How pat leave has been for Kyle


13:53 Kyle’s feelings around returning to work


18:24 How boundaries shift after paternity leave


23:37 How Kaila’s thinking about parental leave 


33:41 The systemic problem that lack of parental leave policy in the U.S. is creating




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What Parental Leave is Actually Like

What Parental Leave is Actually Like

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