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When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?

When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?

Update: 2025-05-15
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Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss a few of the 16 'other' baseball figures reinstated by MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred this week including Shoeless Joe Jackson and several members of the 1919 White Sox, and when 'bad' secondary pitches become a problem by looking at six pitchers whose fastballs currently exceed the quality of their breaking and off-speed offerings.


Rundown

1:05 The 'Other' 16 Reinstated by Commissioner Rob Manfred

12:50 No, Oyster Burns Wasn't Banned for Life

15:31 When Are 'Bad' Secondaries A Problem?

19:46 Robbie Ray's Limited Arsenal

22:20 An Attempt to Understand Bryan Woo's Success & Splits

33:13 The Andrew Heaney Odyssey

40:05 We're Still Puzzled by Taj Bradley; Is It All Linked to Poor Command?

53:01 Do Ownership Blueprints Come From Ownership's Approach to Other Businesses?


Related Reading

SABR's Eight Myths Out: https://sabr.org/eight-myths-out

Matt Moret on the 'other' 16: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6354320

Zach Buchanan's 2019 Story 'A cold case, not a closed case: The baseball obsessives correcting the record about the 1919 Black Sox Scandal': https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1260436


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Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris


With: Trevor May


Producer: Brian Smith


Executive Producer: Derek VanRiper


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When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?

When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?