Have you ever caught yourself thinking, “I’m not doing enough,” even while you’re holding everything together? You’re ticking boxes, keeping things running, supporting others — and still that little voice creeps in saying, “Are you sure you’re getting this right?”.
Welcome to Lead the Standard!

In this episode of Lead The Standard, Jackie and Kelly explore the pervasive issue of imposter syndrome, particularly in leadership roles. They discuss the challenges and emotional impact of self-doubt, even when outwardly successful. Kelly shares her personal journey of stepping into a new role while managing both professional and personal upheaval, including cancer treatment and natural disasters.

The episode introduces a six-step 'Thread Model' for navigating and overcoming imposter syndrome. These steps include tracing tacit knowledge, highlighting hidden work, reflecting on responsibility, equipping the team, acknowledging, and appreciating efforts, and developing with intention. They stress the importance of transparency, empowering team members, and maintaining a balance between productivity and self-care. Both hosts emphasize that leadership involves continuous learning and appreciating the team's contributions to foster a more open and effective work environment.

Notable timestamps:
• 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
• 00:48 Welcome to the Throwing Out Podcast
• 02:10 Imposter Syndrome: A Leadership Challenge
• 03:35 Kelly's Personal Journey and Insights
• 10:23 The Thread Model: Six Practices for Effective Leadership
• 12:33 Trace: Identifying Invisible Knowledge
• 15:28 Highlighting Hidden Work
• 21:48 Reflecting on Responsibility
• 26:17 Equipping Your Team with Power
• 32:17 The Fragility of Team Dynamics
• 32:44 Addressing Permission-Seeking Behavior
• 33:47 The Bottleneck Effect
• 34:35 Acknowledging and Appreciating Team Members
• 35:28 The Power of Unexpected Appreciation
• 38:24 The Impact of Acknowledgement on Leadership
• 42:36 Developing with Intention
• 45:35 Reflecting on Personal and Team Growth
• 59:22 Summarizing Key Takeaways
• 01:01:02 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

The usual links:
• Read the LTS Article: https://blog.auditortrainingonline.com/lead-the-standard/2025-18
• ATOL: https://auditortrainingonline.com/
• Connect with Jackie:
o https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackiestapleton/
o https://jackiestapleton.com/
• Connect with Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellytaylor-au/

Other links we promised:
• Jackies Book is coming register for pre-sale now…. https://jackiestapleton.myflodesk.com/leadthestandardbook
• Girl Director: https://girldirector.com/

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