In this Dream Big, Move Fast episode, Josh Phegan and Phil Harris ask, would you list with you? and present a model for decision-making. They discuss ways to package, market and develop yourself to be the kind of person people want to do business with, and understand that, if you wouldn’t buy from you, don’t expect someone else to.

Phil and Josh talk about going all in on systems, building great people around you by being great to work for, understanding that in the learning process you will lose, but you will learn; it's the person you become that's the most important part. And they offer a fresh perspective on the 'fake it until you make it' principle.