Episode Notes

Zabato Bebe is the skating choreographer for the ice shows at Phantasialand in Germany, where he also contributes to casting and finding new talent for their shows. He previously skated with Cirque du Soleil and has developed a unique style that blends elements of hip hop, African dance, and breaking on the ice. I first encountered Zabato after he had a video go viral last year featuring pair tricks with Alejandro Soler Castro, forming one of the few male/male adagio pairs currently performing professionally. Zabato is also interested in technology and is researching the integration of AI into skating and the creative process at large, drawing on his degree from Johannes Kepler Universität Linz (JKU) in Austria. We had a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, entertainment, and pushing the boundaries of what figure skating can be.

Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11C8rngXWhvze503F0-O2dK1y6y1WKUxEP-EfGXoT4zw/edit?tab=t.0

YouTube: https://youtu.be/1LPV6kYwnko

You can follow Zabato on Instagram at @ zabatobebe

You can reach me with comments or suggestions for topics and people I should talk to, by email at fsfuturepodcast@gmail.com, Instagram at @futurefspodcast, or at futureoffs.bsky.com

If you appreciate the podcast, you can also support my work with the Tip Jar at https://futureoffigureskating.pinecast.co

Support The Future of Figure Skating by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/futureoffigureskating