In this episode of Tailgate Talks, Donald Forgione welcomes two rising leaders in Minnesota’s state park system—Nate Springer, Park Supervisor at Gooseberry Falls State Park, and Katie Foshay, Park Manager of Tettegouche and George H. Crosby Manitou State Parks.

Nate and Katie sit down for a candid conversation about what it’s really like to step into park management. From staffing and operations to public expectations and personal growth, they share the surprises, challenges, and lessons they’ve already learned on the job.

This episode is packed with practical tips for new and aspiring park managers—and a few laughs too—as the guests take over the mic and ask Donald their own questions in a special Tailgate Takeover format.

Whether you’re managing your first park or mentoring the next generation, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and a behind-the-scenes look at what leadership in parks really means.