Seventeen months on, Sam Branson - Ben’s Wife - returns for her most honest conversation yet. Their daughter River is now diagnosed autistic, and Sam and Ben reflect on how that has reshaped their marriage, family life and understanding of each other.

This episode is their most vulnerable yet.

Sam reflects on what it has really been like since Ben’s autism diagnosis and the pain of autistic shutdowns from both perspectives. 

Together, they talk about parenting an autistic child, adjusting their communication and finding understanding and compassion in the hard moments.

This is a raw, honest conversation for anyone raising an ND child or loving someone whose brain works differently.

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Host: Ben Branson

Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné

Video Editor: James Scriven

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller

00:00 Introduction

01:26 Reflecting Since Sam’s Last Episode (17 Months Later)

05:22 Autism Diagnosis: How Are Things Now in Our Marriage?

06:19 “Let’s Talk About Autistic Shutdowns”: The Pain From Both Sides

21:12 Ben & Sam on Their Daughter River’s Autism Diagnosis

28:34 Sam vs Ben: Parenting an Autistic Child Differently

36:25 The Importance of Neurodiversity-Aware Schooling

38:45 “I Have More Patience for Our Daughter’s Autism Than Yours”

39:45 “I Wasn’t For Our Daughter’s Autism Diagnosis”

58:11 Navigating Autism, Marriage, Shutdowns & Family Life

1:00:12 Sam’s Top Tips for ND Families at Christmas

1:14:15 Sam’s Green Dot Badge

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1 in 5 people are neurodivergent. That’s 1.6 billion of us - yet too many are still excluded, misunderstood, or left without support.

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