What happens when we stop patting ourselves on the back for “special” inclusion—and start building communities where accommodations are normal, and leadership is shared?In this episode, Heather and Steve talk with Kurt Roskopf, disability ally and founder of the Everybody Skis program. When a skier who needed some accommodations was sent home dry, Kurt felt awful—and that moment reframed how he approached every day after that. It set in motion a movement that redefined inclusion across Wisconsin and beyond.Steve first met Kurt through the Helpipedia initiative—a national collaboration connecting families, educators, and professionals to disability resources. We discuss this as well as what real inclusion looks like. Moving from symbolic gestures to structural change. which gives you a blueprint for rethinking belonging in your own community.Blueprint for Barrier DemolitionKurt’s journey reveals lessons that can reshape how we approach everything—from the way we build teams and plan community events to how we design classrooms, businesses, or neighborhood spaces. The blueprint that emerges isn’t about following exact steps, but about rethinking how we show up and realizing that small shifts can spark big change.Listeners will leave asking themselves:

• What would true inclusion look like in my space?
• How might I remove one barrier this week?
• Who could I invite to lead beside me instead of waiting to be invited?

Kurt’s reflections remind us that we’re not just making room for people—we’re rebooting the way our communities work. Real inclusion isn’t a one-time act of kindness; it’s a redesign of how we live, learn, and lead together.You’ll hear moments that stay with you:“When people with disabilities lead, they teach us how to move mountains.”
“We’re not just opening doors—we’re rebooting the whole planet so everyone can walk through.” 

Learn More
 Helpipedia.org
 kurt@spiritofthegame.org

 Text or call: (262) 372-1754If you're ready to move beyond the feel-good photo-op and build true belonging in your own hometown, this episode is your invitation to start.









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