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Mark and Zac 'The Outsiders' Podcast Show.

Author: Mark Clifton & Zac Thraves

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What has not following your dreams cost you?

Are you living on the 'outside in' ? 

Do you feel a sense of disconnect or find your work, life, social relationships are an 'out of body' experience ?

Do you Feel like you just don't belong or 'fit in' no matter how much you try or even want to ?

Join Mark and Zac for an expressive and freestyle insight into life direction and the impact of our choices on our health, relationships and place in society.

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Send us a text Mark and Zac are back ! A new series looking at life from varying perspectives with emphasis on how certain aspects of life including past experiences have created the people we have become today. This programme is for those who feel they exist 'outside of the norm' and yet somehow manage to function normally without giving too much away...if you are one of us, this space is designed for YOU ! This week Mark and Zac were joined by previous contributor and fellow outsider, Va...
Send us a text Mark and Zac are back ! A new series looking at life from varying perspectives with emphasis on how certain aspects of life including past experiences have created the people we have become today. This programme is for those who feel they exist 'outside of the norm' and yet somehow manage to function normally without giving too much away...if you are one of us, this space is designed for YOU ! This week's podcast was broadcast live as Mark and Zac explored gratitude an...
Send us a text Mark and Zac are back ! A new series looking at life from varying perspectives with emphasis on how certain aspects of life including past experiences have created the people we have become today. This programme is for those who feel they exist 'outside of the norm' and yet somehow manage to function normally without giving too much away...if you are one of us, this space is designed for YOU ! This week's podcast was broadcast live as Mark and Zac explored 'Human Condi...
Send us a text Mark and Zac are back ! A new series looking at life from varying perspectives with emphasis on how certain aspects of life including past experiences have created the people we have become today. This programme is for those who feel they exist 'outside of the norm' and yet somehow manage to function normally without giving too much away...if you are one of us, this space is designed for YOU ! This week Mark and Zac explore the idea of being 'rebellious' and where it comes f...
Send us a text Mark and Zac are back ! A new series looking at life from varying perspectives with emphasis on how certain aspects of life including past experiences have created the people we have become today. This programme is for those who feel they exist 'outside of the norm' and yet somehow manage to function normally without giving too much away...if you are one of us, this space is designed for YOU ! This week Mark and Zac explore days in the old school yard and how those formati...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac are joined by past contributor and follower of the show, Benny 'The Stoic Padawan' a world traveller who has just returned to his native Netherlands and back home with his parents. A situation that resonated with Mark, who also found himself back at home, however, in slightly different circumstances. In this week's show, Benny shared the challenges of living and working overseas and realised that learning and using a different language and t...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac are joined by past contributor and follower of the show, Vanessa 'The Wellbeing Blogger'. The group discuss the benefits of self expression and being 'in the flow' with particular focus on 'Outsiders Art', people not trained as artists but with the instinct as well as interest to release their creativity through artistic expression. It is incredibly powerful as well as therapeutic to create art and therefore people should be encouraged...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss 'mortality'. Following the recent passing of Zac's father, it seemed opportune to dedicate this week's podcast to one our biggest followers. As creative and expressive types, we can often live too long in 'our heads' often putting 'things off' as they appear too daunting and unrealistic to start or even complete. It is with the awareness and realisation that we only have a limited time to actually do those 'things' that ...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the benefits of developing yourself by taking creative courses to develop your skills, knowledge and most importantly heighten your self confidence through practice. As creative and expressive types, we can often live too long in 'our heads' and remain hidden 'in the shadows' without giving ourselves the opportunity to just try. Courses and programmes are now readily available, either online or at arts centres in your local community. By develo...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss going out socially for a few drinks and whether it still holds the same appeal as it used to be. How places may change but the crowd still remain the same and... how is it that despite the financial turmoil, people are still going out as if nothing has ever changed ? Find this interesting ? Have your own thoughts on the topic and want to share them with us ? Why not drop us a line and share your own thoughts and experiences ? Write to us...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac share insights, experiences as well as discuss the importance of having a foundation in place before any form of public performance. The integral steps required of practice and visualisation are key to ensuring that you can evolve and develop your skills, passions and interests to another level. Fundamental to this, however, is the self belief and awareness that following your instinctive path is an integral part of who you are. All that is...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the importance of developing relationships with our child/children as parents and how we can maintain them remotely, if seperated or engage with them if still in a relationship. Our podcasts use 'creativity 'and 'expression' as reference points within our discussion as they are integral parts our identity and how we use them as tools and a method of engagement. How do you connect with your child/children as a parent ? Why not drop ...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of emotional relationships and how, as ‘Outsiders’ , we fit into them. This is the 2nd part of the episode on this topic. in this segment Mark and Zac discuss their own experiences with relationships and come up with suggestions and advice on how to approach them from a non conventional perspective. Can relationships with the wrong partner induce an 'out of body experience' ? How do you view relationships? What are your...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of emotional relationships and how, as ‘Outsiders’ , we fit into them. This is episode is part 1 of a 2 part episode on this topic.. Mark and Zac approach this issue from different perspectives ; Zac from the ‘bottom up’ and how going through life’s struggles and difficult personal issues have helped him become a more kind appreciative person, whereas Mark believes that we need to be emotionally independent and comfortabl...
Send us a text Hello and Welcome to Series 5 of our podcast series ! This week Mark and Zac discuss the importance of 'confidence 'and how it impacts on our ability to actually do the things we always wanted or dreamt of doing but were to insecure, anxious or basically lacking in self belief . Mark and Zac, as always share their own experiences and insights into what and how they overcame their 'mental blocks' in order to pursue the things that make them happy and closer to their authentic ...
Send us a textThis week Zac takes up 'the reins' and opens up about his struggle with depression. He asks if failure is something that we should question, or whether it is a sign of growth. Zac also shares his story and discusses why understanding mental health is so important and how to deal with internal anxiety.If you can relate to this, it is not to be missed.Support the show
Send us a text This week, Mark goes solo, as his co host and creator, Zac is away. In order to keep the show flowing and to ensure listeners don't go without an 'Outsiders' weekly fix...Mark shares a few insights into being the best version of yourself and how to follow your nature rather than someone else's version of it. Mark also introduces the format for the next series, a new briefer chat style version of the show with new guests and a more interactive version of the podcast...sta...
Send us a text Do you find yourself asking questions at work or even within your social groups ? Does it feel as though by doing so, you feel as though you are 'rocking the boat' of conventionality when all you are intending to do is find a justifiable reason for something ? As ‘Outsiders’ we often ask questions …as we are expressive types, it is often frustrating when we don’t understand a course of action …this can lead to us being seen as ‘difficult’ or ‘trouble makers’ when i...
Send us a textThis week Mark and Zac discuss the importance of being true to ourselves through creativity and expression.Mark and Zac took up the Songwriting challenge and share their words and the ideas behind them. Being true to ourselves is not an easy road but one that provides us with the internal rewards that result in raising our vibration and 'Inner Light'....and in turn attracting the right situations, outcomes and people into our lives. Support the show
Send us a text This week Mark and Zac discuss the concept of 'visibility', in the sense of being authentic and open as opposed to hiding in plain sight, by blending in with the 'crowd' and therefore providing 'cover' for those of us living within our comfort zones (?). 'The Outsiders' also discuss how creativity is taking a step outside of our comfort zones and requires a certain amount of emotional instability in order to be creative. Mark shares some insights into his songwriting co...
Send us a text This week Mark and Zac discuss the concept of being true to ourselves in the way we act or behave whilst in 'social environments' such as the workspace, family gatherings and possibly most interestingly in relationships. 'The Outsider' also often ends up fighting against his or her nature by actually wanting to belong to social groups and as a result ends up going against the flow of their truth, which can lead to giving off false signals and result in confusion and misu...
Send us a text "Change begins at the end of your comfort zone" Roy. T . Bennett This week Mark and Zac met up in London's Soho district, a zone that holds deep connection to the arts, creativity and self expression An area that seemed to 'fit the bill' as the duo wandered the streets and revisited areas of interest as well as sharing past insights of times spent living and working in London. This episode was recorded at the Royal Academy of Arts, well situated within the area an...
Send us a text Epictetus wrote, " no man is free who is not master of himself." Freedom is within us all and is not, as most of might believe, a location or projected future of some kind. This week Mark and Zac had a conversation with Benny Voncken, the Dutch Stoic Padawan, currently located in Mexico. Amongst the varied aspects of living as an outsider, Benny shares his life outlook and philosophy as well as the challenges he has faced since he decided to pack up and travel. The co...
Send us a text Are you a Rebel or possibly a 'Flaneur' ? (Listen in for Zac's explanation) ... How do you react or respond to your environment (workspace, home , social etc..) Do you conform to the 'norm' ? Are you frustrated at not 'being You' in order to 'Get Along' and 'Fit In' ? This week the podcast looks at why most creative people tend to be 'rebellious' in nature and why this 'attitude' usually develops during the formative years. Mark and Zac reflect on their own life...
Send us a text Are you highly sensitive and possibly over analytical in your approach to life ? This week, Mark and Zac decided to go back in time and discuss their teenage years and some of the films that connected with them and the messages behind the stories. Music and Film as always, are central to the theme of our podcasts as they are creative and expressive formats and usually the place where 'outsiders' tend to explore. As always, we do hope you are finding ...
Send us a text Are you highly sensitive and possibly over analytical in your approach to life ? This week, Mark and Zac welcome special guest and regular listener of the podcast ; Vanessa Dias, Psychologist and 'WellBeing Blogger' from Lisbon, Portugal. Vanessa has spent many years living as well as studying outside of her 'comfort zone' both in terms of location and the lifestyle she has followed. Mark, Zac and Vanessa discuss many issues including th...
Send us a text Are you comfortable in your own skin ? This week, Mark and Zac met up to record a 'live' podcast in central London to discuss the idea of social interaction and the internal pressures that come from activities such as parties or meeting friends. As highly sensitive people, 'Outsiders' usually find social engagement a challenge, as so much depends upon their emotional state and the environment within which they find themselves. Often, these emotional states are de...
Send us a text Series 3 of Mark and Zac's The Outsiders podcast series ; Storytelling using the Hero's Journey. Mark and Zac focus on the art of storytelling using Joseph Campbell’s ‘Hero’s Journey’ framework as basis to share ideas and discuss experiences. This week's discussion focuses on the dividing line between 'knowing' what we need 'to do' versus the reality of 'taking action' and facing our 'inner fears'. Knowing that we must push beyond our 'Comfort Zone' in order to get back to ...
Send us a text Series 3 of Mark and Zac's The Outsiders podcast series ; Storytelling using the Hero's Journey. Mark and Zac focus on the art of storytelling using Joseph Campbell’s ‘Hero’s Journey’ framework as basis to share ideas, discuss experiences and ultimately help the listener understand as well as recreate their own life stories. A sort of template for life. Mark and Zac discuss the idea that until we become aware of our situation we are unlikely or even ready for change. Thi...
Send us a text This week sees the start of series 3 of Mark and Zac's The Outsiders podcast series ; Storytelling using the Hero's Journey. Mark and Zac focus on the art of storytelling using Joseph Campbell’s ‘Hero’s Journey’ framework as basis to share ideas, discuss experiences and ultimately help the listener understand as well as recreate their own life stories. A sort of template for life. In this episode Mark and Zac discuss the idea that until we become aware of our situation w...
Send us a text This week sees the start of series 3 of Mark and Zac's The Outsiders podcast series ; Storytelling using the Hero's Journey. Mark and Zac focus on the art of storytelling using Joseph Campbell’s ‘Hero’s Journey’ framework as basis to share ideas, discuss experiences and ultimately help the listener understand as well as recreate their own life stories. A sort of template for life. In this introductory episode we discuss the two worlds that exist within the Hero's Journ...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac are joined by fellow Podcaster and Outsider, Gary Jenkins. Gary shares his incredible life experiences and insights from the perspective of living almost his entire life 'in the shadows'. From a traumatic childhood where his confidence was drained to life in the military, where he lived under the restrictions of confidentiality and as a civilian, in many guises from Cowboy , Christian Minister to Life Counsellor; likening his world to that o...
Send us a text Mark and Zac met up in London for their monthly 'live' recording and the venue was the historical bookstore 'Housmans' in Kings Cross. An established bookshop and meeting place for London (and UK's ) various radical movements over the years, therefore, an ideal place for Outsiders to record a podcast ! If you are interested in finding out more about 'Housmans' as both a radical bookseller and its history, please go the link below; www.housmans.com Mark and Zac, discuss the im...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the importance of self expression. It is vital that we find our authentic 'voice' and direction in life in order to be both productive and as a result, have a balanced relationship with the world. Mark and Zac share their own life experiences and realise that many of their issues with self belief and confidence are a byproduct of their childhood and the values that were passed down on them. The old phrase 'Children should be seen and not h...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of constantly being 'on the move' in search of the perfect location that represents the environment most suited to our sensitivities. As ever, this represented from 2 different perspectives, Zac has always lived in the same area in the UK for most of his life, whilst Mark has travelled and lived overseas for many years . In essence being 'outsiders' within our own local community and as visitors to other countries. The com...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac are joined by Anna Maria Bagany, fellow Outsider and Human Design specialist. This is the first of many planned interviews with other fellow Outsiders in order to discover how life can be lived fully whilst accepting the various social challenges that exist being an 'Outsider.' Anna describes her life, moving away from her family home in Hungary and her inner search whilst travelling and why she has now settled in Canada. We also discuss how Anna uses Hu...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of 'vibration' as a source of energy and frequency that is within us and depending on our state of mind , how we engage with the world. This energy is a little like a solar power that if sufficiently 'topped up' allows us to absorb and experience positive feelings which in turn attracts positive response and opportunities. The discussion also focuses on how we can choose our attitude and the impact of these choices on our a...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of being in the present, the 'here and now 'as opposed to living in our heads. The 'past', no matter how good, bad or indifferent, is just that, whilst living in 'projection of the future' means that we cannot experience the reality of 'now' and it is almost a form of madness to be putting everything on hold on the basis that tomorrow will be better, when we can't possibly know this. Mark and Zac attempt to underline this through ...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the idea of an 'out of body' experience. An 'out of body' experience usually occurs during a stressful or uncomfortable moment when we feel overwhelmed and want to be anywhere other than facing a specific situation. In other words 'overlooking' a situation seemingly outside of our bodies...this is a neuroscientific experience or possibly considered paranormal, however it does happen. Mark and Zac share their own experienc...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the importance of imagination and creativity in storytelling, specifically in relation to connecting with children and expanding their outlook and mindset. Giving yourself 'permission' to 'act' and 'do' rather than purely 'consume' is important as well as cathartic and rewarding . Children's minds are constantly developing and it is through stories that connection to concepts as well as morals and human behaviour are nurtured. Mark and Zac share...
Send us a text This week Mark and Zac meet up on the famous Kings Road in Chelsea, London to record their 'live' podcast. The reason this location was selected was its place as a famous backdrop to the revolutionary punk movement in the UK during the 1970's. Punk was a radical movement against the establishment and government's failure to listen to or accommodate the growing disillusionment of its population based on its flagging economy and repressive systems. Resulting in the youth o...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss relationships using personalities from our favourite fictional characters found in novels and films. This is in some ways a continuation from the previous podcast (series 2 episode 5) as it is apparent that many similar behaviours, attitudes and values of an Outsider are portrayed in these characters and therefore through the eyes of their creators. Relationships at the very best of times are complex and the added dimension of self protect...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss and explore why 'The Outsider' character type is so widely used in storytelling. No matter what your interest , the world seems to love or cheer on 'the underdog' or the character that has to overcome various hurdles in order to endure and win the day. You only have to think about most of the 'superheroes and villains' to realise that these characters are 'Outsiders', either banished or in most cases 'self isolated' from the world in general. ...
Send us a text Life is an adventure and it is important that we can reflect on the past in terms of understanding the clues in terms of what has served us well and ...not so well in order to learn and develop on a personal level. It is also useful, as well as exciting, to understand that we are creating new chapters every day based around the actions we take, these will provide us with momentum and fresh challenges as we seek our internal 'holy grail'. Mark and Zac as always, discuss a...
Send us a text Relationships come in all shapes and sizes and require many things in order for them to develop and evolve, such as balance, mutual interest and ongoing engagement. Mark and Zac continue to explore life from the 'Outside In' and discuss their own experiences and life lessons as well as offer some suggestions and insights into how being aware of our behaviour is vital in order to learn and change for better outcomes. If you are enjoying 'The Outsiders' podcast...
Send us a text Mark and Zac meet up again for a 'live' podcast discussion, this time in the woodlands of one of London's most central and beautiful parks to explore the challenges and rewards of following our natural instinct and going against conventional standards. Taking those brave steps that lead to a world of inner and possibly external reward. We all to often prefer the safety of just adapting and following a routine that is, in essence, purely for daily survival rather than taking act...
Send us a text Mark and Zac set off on another investigation around self awareness and the impact of not following our true nature. Very often we all just adapt to life and push aside any internal conflict or emotion by going into our 'comfort zone' and very rarely dealing with those issues 'head on'. The impact on those of us 'sensitive' and aware enough can be quite dramatic and often lead us into self doubt, confusion and a loss of self belief and this in turn can cause self harm and inter...
Send us a text The Outsiders investigate the impact of communicating from a place of uncertainty. One of the issues facing outsiders is belonging or 'fitting in' to society, mainly as the foundations or understanding is based around an overhyped sense of self or conversely low self belief or esteem. This is due to a lack of clarity or empowerment during our formative years. The outcome of this, is finding the balance in our communication style and as a result makes fitting in a da...
Send us a text This week, Mark and Zac discuss the concept of 'Success' ; what it means, how it looks and feels. As Outsiders, we may well be successful or have been successful in the conventional sense of the meaning, however, it doesn't necessarily mean that we have enjoyed or even felt the joy of success, more a sense of survival in order to maintain appearances or to conform with societal demands. Success is relative and means different things to different people, however, it is an ...
Send us a text Mark and Zac discuss the importance of creativity and how it impacts on our lives. Many of us are creative and expressive beings and yet, despite being in tune with our nature, tend to push this aside in our 'daily lives' in order to pursue careers, practical daily issues and other life commitments. Some of us, in touch with our creativity, often find reasons to 'put off' or procrastinate for fear of judgement, or lack the confidence to try or participate in the very things tha...
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