Uncommon Leadership

What does it truly take to embrace your most authentic self?    Join us for another episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast where I, Michael Hunter, sit down with Ken Miller, a resilience coach and national speaker—who has an extraordinary story to share.   Ken shares his journey from being an Ivy League graduate to a life of addiction that led to homelessness and multiple prison sentences. He takes us through his pivotal moment of surrender that became the turning point for his entire life.   This conversation goes beyond personal triumph. It's a battle-tested lesson for all leaders who are striving for growth—whether that's intellectual, emotional, personal, or professional.   This episode gives you the courage you need to become truly resilient in a world that's constantly changing. It underscores the value of treating people with empathy and respect. And sketches a path you could follow to find freedom in surrender.   Grab a seat, let's talk.   5 Reasons to love this podcast: You'll understand that resilience is so much more than simply bouncing back from adversity. It's a strategic act. Find an actionable (and practical) plan for personal and professional transformation. You'll learn how to free yourself from what’s holding you back. Get inspired to lead from a place of radical honesty, empathy, and a genuine investment in people as individuals, not just transactions. To find the courage to get a different result in your life or business, by ditching all the inauthentic parts of yourself and embracing an aligned, more evolved version of yourself.   -- Meet the Speakers   Ken Miller National Speaker | Author of Becoming Ken | CEO @AIVAlution   As a Certified Fundraising Executive and successful multi-entrepreneur, Ken conflates his expertise in nonprofit leadership, fundraising, and AI-driven solutions.Through his company, AIVAlution LLC, he is at the forefront of leveraging AI and virtual assistant technology to streamline operations and drive efficiency for nonprofits and businesses. In a nutshell, Ken Miller is a speaker, author and a resilience expert who turns adversity into action. He delivers compelling insights on topics ranging from overcoming adversity and building resilience to the future of AI in philanthropy. His mission is to empower leaders to navigate challenges with authenticity and fulfill their potential.   The best way to connect with Ken Miller is on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenmiller84/ More on Ken Miller: https://kenmillerspeaks.com/     Michael Hunter Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner   Michael Hunter partners with top tech leadership teams across six continents to create extraordinary cultures. With 35 years of experience at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and Tableau, he helps leaders sustain meaningful change. Michael believes that only by integrating mind, heart, body, spirit, and intuition can leaders truly navigate change safely and build a lasting legacy of impact + human-centered leadership.   The best way to connect with Michael Hunter is on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/ More on Michael Hunter: https://uncommonteams.com/ -- Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, please give us a thumbs up and tune into the Uncommon Leadership Podcast Series.   Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw For more, explore Uncommon Teams: https://uncommonteams.com/ Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165 Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj

What if the key to being a great leader isn't about working harder, but about being more you?   Hi, I am Michael Hunter, founder of Uncommon Teams, and I'm so glad you found this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast. Because today, I sit down with Jason Dea, who is a CPO, a startup advisor, and a leadership coach, and explore a new way to lead.   Discover why trying to be a different person in different contexts is exhausting and how being your authentic self can be your greatest strength.   Join us as we also talk about the art of turning big, overwhelming problems into manageable baby steps, and why focusing on the process—not just the outcome—is the most reliable path to success.   Grab a set and let's together explore a new way to lead with ease, purpose, and confidence.   -- 3 Reasons Why This Podcast Is Your Next Must-Listen:   If you're willing to re-examine your role as a leader/ founder/ CEO— Discover how an obsession with process and a mastery of team dynamics can be the true drivers of sustainable business growth.   If you want to tackle your biggest business challenges head-on— Learn how to turn overwhelming challenges into a series of tiny, manageable experiments that build momentum and confidence.   If you want to truly build an incredible workplace culture— Get ready to build a resilient, adaptable organizational culture where authenticity and psychological safety are not just buzzwords, but the foundations for a powerful and lasting legacy.   --   While others are bogged down by miscommunication and a constant sense of overwhelm, the most resilient leaders are operating with an uncommon advantage.   The question is: Are you ready to stop guessing and start leading with purpose?    If yes, let's talk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   -- Meet the Speakers   Jason Dea CPO @Koru | VP of Product | Startup Advisor & Coach| Helping Seed to C SaaS startups find PMF and scale to predictable growth   Hi, this is Jason Dea. Here's something you should know about me: For over 20 years, I’ve navigated the startup world—from an idea on a napkin to successful exits. I’ve lived the grind: balancing vision with execution and scaling without breaking. My passion is helping founders cut through the noise and turn their ambitious product visions into scalable realities. I specialize in AI-driven product strategy, helping teams align their roadmap and drive growth. I’ve been in your shoes, scaling SaaS products to millions in ARR and through multiple successful exits.     Michael Hunter Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner   I'm Michael Hunter, the founder of Uncommon Teams. All my work is driven by a single mission: to help leaders, CXOs, and founders build uncommon teams. These are the teams where every person feels valued, psychologically safe, and confident to bring their authentic selves to work. Drawing from my experience with leaders across six continents, I've developed a battle-tested framework that is always precisely customized for you, helping you greet change like an old friend. My deepest satisfaction comes from helping leaders not just envision their legacy, but truly inhabit it. By integrating your whole self into everything you do, you can discover ease, freedom, and a resilient leadership journey that creates a safe organizational culture for everyone.   -- Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, please give us a thumbs up and subscribe to the Uncommon Leadership Podcast Series.   Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw   Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165 Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj   Presented By: UncommonChange

What makes a leader finally decide it's time to change?    Hey there! This is Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, and welcome to another episode of The Uncommon Leadership Podcast, where I have real, unfiltered conversations with successful leaders about their journeys—the highs, the lows, and the moments that forced a change.   Here, we go beyond the business talks and dive into the human side of leadership, exploring the crossroads and points that redefine success.   In this episode, I'm in conversation with Chad Brown, a business owner and leadership coach, who opens up about a time in his life when he was forced to confront the opportunity cost of his career.   Brown also reveals the one mindset shift that saved his life and his family—making every decision based on the future he wanted to create, not on the instant gratification of the moment.   Later, we also uncover why leadership is a lifelong practice, and how you can find joy in the constant challenges and uncertainty of business.   I truly feel like this conversation is a wake-up call for every leader on the brink of burnout.   Watch the full episode to uncover the lessons you need to hear.   A sneak peek of our conversation... How Professional success can be a lie if it's driven by a need for external validation rather than a genuine purpose. A leader must make decisions based on the future they want to create, not on what is most urgent or loudest in the present. Leadership is a practice, a lifelong process of attempting, discovering, and refining—it's not something you can master or achieve. Self-leadership trumps everything. You cannot effectively lead a team until you have done the work to lead yourself well. The key to navigating a world of constant change is to change your relationship with uncertainty and find joy in the next challenge, rather than trying to escape it. -- About the Speakers   Chad Brown Coach | Cornerman to Business Owners and Founders | Head of Talent Development @LeadSimple | CEO & Owner @ Shade Tree Films | Associate Partner @Take New Ground   As a coach and cornerman for business owners and founders, Chad Brown thrives in conversations with the restless and relentless. Drawing on his experience as a founder and entrepreneur, he is intimately connected to the unique challenges of those pursuing something bigger than themselves in business and relationships. Chad's philosophy is rooted in the belief that there is reward in discomfort, and he sees himself as a living invitation into the work that produces change, growth, and vitality.   Ways to get in touch with Chad Brown LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-brown-founder-freedom/ Website: https://www.founder-freedom.com/ Email: chad@chadlbrown.com     Michael Hunter Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner   Michael Hunter partners with top tech leadership teams across six continents to create extraordinary cultures. With 35 years of experience at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and Tableau, he helps leaders sustain meaningful change. Michael believes that only by integrating mind, heart, body, spirit, and intuition can leaders truly navigate change safely and build a lasting legacy of impact + human-centered leadership.   -- Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, please give us a thumbs up and follow the Uncommon Leadership Podcast Series for more.   Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw   Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple-https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165   Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj   Presented By: UncommonChange

Many leaders find themselves at a crossroads today.   Because they understand that the traditional "command and control" style of leadership is no longer working across the nuanced human dynamics of today's workplace.   So if you're here looking to explore this concern or need help navigating change, you've come to the right place.   Hello, this is Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams. With me, I have Jillian Reilly, founder, author of The Ten Permissions, and a visionary who's spent decades at the forefront of social and organizational change.   Together, we explore how to build a new adult operating system—so you can stand resilient on the volatile ground of the modern workspace.   --   Things you'll learn from this conversation:   How to transform workplace confusion into clarity by understanding the "new rules" of engagement. The surprising power of boundaries and why being direct about expectations creates profound psychological safety. How to move beyond "fake permission" to truly empower yourself and your team. Strategies for leading in constant change Practical steps to lead with humanity: Learn how small shifts can create significant impact and a culture of true fit.   Tune in now to gain the insights and practical tools to lead your team with greater connection, psychological safety, and authentic impact.    --   Meet the Speakers   Jillian Reilly Author | Founder | Keynote Speaker | Leadership Facilitator | Re-invention Mentor for anyone ready to ditch outdated rules and design a life that fits now    From the front-lines of the HIV/AIDS crisis to executive coaching in London, Jillian has guided people and organizations through uncertainty and change. She is also the author of book like Shame: Confessions of an Aid Worker in Africa and The Ten Permissions, a bold framework for personal and social reinvention. Her work empowers individuals and institutions to unlearn outdated scripts, give themselves permission to thrive with clarity, courage, and creativity.     Michael Hunter Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner   Michael Hunter partners with top tech leadership teams across six continents to create extraordinary cultures. With 35 years of experience at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and Tableau, he helps leaders sustain meaningful change. Michael believes that only by integrating mind, heart, body, spirit, and intuition can leaders truly navigate change safely and build a lasting legacy of impact + human-centered leadership.   -- Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, please give us a thumbs up and tune into the Uncommon Leadership Podcast Series.   Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw   Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165 Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj   Presented By: UncommonChange

Hey there! I'm Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, and I'm genuinely glad you're here.   If you've found your way to this podcast, it tells me you're ready to embrace change like an old friend, and I'm here to make that process easy for you—especially if you're currently feeling like you're running on empty or sacrificing your well-being just to keep up.   Because in this powerful episode, I sit down with the incredible Evie Brockwell to dive deep into something that I'd like to call the Energy Paradox. Here, we uncover why chasing "more" might actually be holding you back from the outcomes and impact you truly desire.   If you're ready to break free from the hustle culture, understand your own energy patterns, and cultivate a life where you genuinely thrive, this conversation offers the path forward.   --   Key Takeaways:   That "always on" feeling? It might be working against you. Don't mistake busyness for real progress. Rest isn't a reward. It's a strategic move. Learn why slowing down can actually make you a more impactful leader. Understand & learn to use your unique energy rhythms to unlock a whole new level of performance. Don't wait until burnout to change your pace. Start experimenting with what feels sustainable now, not later.   --   Show Notes:   00:00 - 14:30 The Energy Trap: Why Constant Motion Leads to Burnout   14:30 - 25:00 Find Your Pace: Debunking the "Always On" Myth   25:00 - 38:00 Guest Stories: Personal Wake-up Calls and Self-awareness   38:00- End Beyond Metrics: The True ROI of Solid Company Cultures Well-being   --   Meet the Speakers   Evie Brockwell Product Tank Organiser @Mind The Product | Product Expert (Consultant + Coach) @Be Optimized | Podcast Host @Product Confidential: The reality of PM life!   Evie is a leading product consultant and coach, trusted by global brands like TUI, Channel 4, Megabus, and Booking.com to drive product maturity, amplify impact, and optimize ways of working. Struck by the alarming statistic that 92% of product managers face burnout, she found her mission: proactively empowering over 300 product professionals through keynotes, workshops, and direct company engagements to reverse this trend.     Michael Hunter Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner   Michael Hunter partners with top tech leadership teams across six continents to create extraordinary cultures. With 35 years of experience at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and Tableau, he helps leaders sustain meaningful change. Michael believes that only by integrating mind, heart, body, spirit, and intuition can leaders truly navigate change safely and build a lasting legacy of impact + human-centered leadership.     -- Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, there's so much more to explore→   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

As leaders, we often find ourselves navigating a landscape of constant change. Unexpected challenges.   And the constant pressure of having all the answers.   So, if you're feeling burnt out, overwhelmed, or simply know there's a deeper, more authentic way to lead—you are in the right place.   Hello and welcome to another episode of the Uncommon Leadership podcast. Today, I'm honored to sit down with Eric Charran, an author and thought leader, who has spearheaded innovative data strategies and AI/ML solutions at giants like Microsoft and Capital One.   Eric is known for bridging the gap between complex technology and tangible business results across diverse industries. In our conversation, Eric and I dive into the profound insights from his book, "Have You Ever Had a Boss That...", and explore what it truly means to lead with resilience, adaptability, and ease.   Here are some critical insights unpacked in this episode:   How vulnerability, seeking diverse perspectives, and acknowledging your blind spots pave the way for innovation and holistic problem-solving within your team How to identify the subtle signals of rising emotions in high-pressure situations How to process, and not just bury, feelings like frustration or injustice, enabling professional growth for both yourself and your team Understand the profound business value of shifting from rewarding "busyness" to truly empowering your team Diplomatic yet potent approaches to address recurring, unhelpful patterns.   If you're ready to embrace change like an old friend and build a legacy where your team truly brings their best, you won't want to miss this.   --   About the Speakers   Eric Charran For more than 25 years now, Eric Charran has helped organizations scale in an increasingly digital economy through innovative data strategies, AI/ML solutions, and scalable enterprise platforms. Charran is recognized for building next-generation data ecosystems and AI/ML solutions that drive measurable business impact, operational excellence, and a culture of innovation. Eric's work focuses on future-proofing enterprises through strategic data and AI adoption.   Get in touch with Eric Charran ↓ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericcharran/     Michael Hunter Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and host of the Uncommon Leadership podcast series. With 35+ years guiding leaders worldwide, Michael empowers teams to beat burnout and thrive for the long run—helping them move beyond overwhelm to create meaningful impact.   Michael's mission is to help leaders, CEOs, and founding teams create and inhabit their legacy, elevating themselves in a way that is safe and sustainable.   Want to build an uncommon, unstoppable team? Get in touch with Michael Hunter ↓ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

Are you a leader, founder, or CXO grappling with change, overwhelm, or burnout in your organization?   Do you wonder about the real ROI of focusing on employee well-being and internal development?   If so, you've come to the right place!   Hello and welcome to another episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast.   Here, I, Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, explore how you can align personal fulfillment with business success, create authentic teams, and cultivate resilience to thrive in today's fast-paced business world.   Joining me today is the incredible Dr. Heather Backstrom—an executive coach, author, and speaker who empowers leaders to model psychological safety and integrate their whole selves for greater business impact.   Today's episode is a deep dive into why treating your team as humans isn't just a nice practice, but a non-negotiable for sustainable success.   In this newest episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, you'll discover:   The shocking business value behind soft skills. The concept of integrating your whole self and why it's critical for authentic leadership. Why psychological safety isn't just a buzzword, but the foundation for a truly empowered team. A practical framework for understanding organizational overwhelm. The profound power of value alignment and why recognizing your choices, even in tough situations, can bring peace and clarity.   If this intrigues you or might help with some of the concerns you're facing within your organization, tune in now.   For more help, feel free to connect with us—we'd love to help in any way we can!   Happy Watching!   -- About the Speakers   Dr. Heather Backstrom Dr. Heather Backstrom is an accomplished executive coach, speaker, and author—dedicated to cultivating strong, confident, and inclusive leaders.   With a doctorate in organizational leadership from Pepperdine University and an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC) credential, Dr. Heather coaches executives across diverse industries like finance, biotech, retail, municipalities, aerospace, media, healthcare, and nonprofit.   She's the award-winning author of Collaborative Confidence: How Women Leaders Can Activate Self-Awareness, Amplify Their Authentic Talents and Accelerate Workplace Change, reflecting her passion for empowering women leaders.   Dr. Heather focuses on helping leaders elevate their impact, build psychologically safe teams, and strengthen cross-organizational relationships.   Get in touch with Dr. Heather Backstrom ↓   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherbackstrom/ Email: heather@heatherbackstrom.com   Michael Hunter Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the compelling voice behind the Uncommon Leadership podcast.   For over 35 years, he's guided leaders across six continents, helping them navigate the demanding realities of burnout, overwhelm, and the multifaceted challenges of today's global business landscape.   He champions the creation of truly authentic and resilient teams, guiding leaders to align their personal fulfillment with profound business success. His unique approach enables individuals and teams to move beyond merely surviving daily pressures, into a state where they can truly thrive and innovate with ease.   Michael's mission is to help leaders, CEOs, and founding teams create and inhabit their legacy, elevating themselves in a way that is safe and sustainable.   Want to build an uncommon, unstoppable team? Get in touch with Michael Hunter ↓   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

What if I told you that the key to unlocking even greater success isn't another strategy, but a raw, honest look at how you lead yourself and your team?   In this Uncommon Leadership episode, I'm joined by Natasha Sell, co-founder of Sutra.co.   Natasha's journey reveals that true leadership, especially for entrepreneurs, is a profound path of personal growth that demands your whole self.   We explore why ignoring this inner work can quietly hinder your venture, and how even a few minutes of stillness can pave the way to unparalleled clarity and engagement.   Discover how cultivating a heart-centered team culture, where vulnerability is a strength, directly translates to stronger retention, improved financial outcomes, and genuinely sustainable growth.   This conversation isn't just theory. It's about reclaiming the very essence of your leadership and connection.   If you're ready to bridge the gap between where you are and where you could be, this episode should be your next listen.   Ready to transform your leadership from the inside out? Tune in now. --   Your Key Lessons from the Episode: You need to integrate deep self-awareness and continuous personal growth. Knowing your "why" and staying inspired builds authentic, sustainable business relationships. The busier you get, the more you should slow down. Even 5 minutes of quiet observation can boost your efficiency. Build a heart-centered team. Focus on human-level check-ins, not just projects. Be confident and clear about your vision. Then, prototype everything: take tiny, feasible steps to gather real-world data. Reframe experiments as learning opportunities, not successes or failures. Support your employees' personal and professional development, even if it means they eventually leave the company. This attitude fosters deep trust and attracts even better talent in the long run. --   About the Speakers   Natasha Sell Natasha Sell is the co-founder of Sutra.co, a pioneering social learning platform that has empowered over 65,000 individuals through online group learning experiences. Her work centers on developing tools that foster collaborative awareness through co-creation.   Since 2012, she has been relentlessly focused on uniting communities through dynamic, collaborative learning. Through extensive iteration and rigorous testing, Natasha has proven that small-scale, group online learning offers a refreshing pathway to new, more effective ways of being and working together.   Beyond her impactful work in the digital space, Natasha is also a certified yoga teacher, bringing a holistic understanding of connection to everything she does.   Get in touch with Natasha Sell: https://sutra.co/   Michael Hunter Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the compelling voice behind the Uncommon Leadership podcast.   For over 35 years, he's guided leaders across six continents, helping them navigate the demanding realities of burnout, overwhelm, and the multifaceted challenges of today's global business landscape.   He champions the creation of truly authentic and resilient teams, guiding leaders to align their personal fulfillment with profound business success. His unique approach enables individuals and teams to move beyond merely surviving daily pressures, into a state where they can truly thrive and innovate with ease.   Michael's mission is to help leaders, CEOs, and founding teams create and inhabit their legacy, elevating themselves in a way that is safe and sustainable.   Want to build an uncommon, unstoppable team? Get in touch with Michael Hunter:   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

With 56% of leaders hitting burnout in 2024 and a staggering 43% of companies losing half their leadership teams, it's clear modern leadership is heading into a burnout phase.   But the question remains: Why?   On this episode of the Uncommon Leadership podcast, I dive into the core issues with highly experienced product leader and coach — Phil Hornby. Phil's unique blend of technical acumen, business insight, and human-centric skills makes his perspective invaluable.   Together, we unpack some crucial reasons behind this alarming trend:   ↪ The immense pressure to hide our true selves fosters stressful and inauthentic work environments. ↪ A default to rigid command-and-control methods strips away team safety and empowerment. ↪The crippling fear of failure that paralyzes action and prevents vital growth. ↪ An overemphasis on tasks that overshadow human connection leads to disengaged teams and stifled collaboration.   We explore the profound problem of how conventional leadership often inhibits team potential, which leads to worse outcomes precisely when superior performance is most needed.   Phil and I reveal how well-intentioned instincts to "take control" can actually sabotage creativity, innovation, and overall business success—leaving an organization vulnerable.   If you're tired of seeing your team's immense talent go untapped and your efforts leading to more exhaustion than impact—then this conversation is for you. ---    Your Key Learnings From This Episode of Uncommon Leadership: The power and the true meaning of bringing your whole self to a leadership role. Learn why small, intentional steps remove the fear of failure by turning every outcome into valuable data for growth. A deep understanding of the control paradox: loosening control often leads to better results! Find out how a deliberate approach to building relationships creates effortless trust and deep collaboration. Understand why micromanagement and rigid leadership can stifle a team's potential. How to design intentional structures that encourage collaboration and mutual support. ---   About the Speakers:   Phil Hornby   Phil Hornby is a highly experienced product leader, coach, technologist, and facilitator with a career spanning over 20 years across diverse sectors including SaaS, IoT, InsuranceTech, MarineTech, Advertising, Manufacturing, BioTech, and Automotive.   Phil has directly helped thousands of individuals across hundreds of companies to think clearly, make strong decisions, and take powerful action that drives high-impact outcomes.   His approach centers on collaboration, context-driven leadership, and continuous learning. As a coach, Phil serves as a trusted sparring partner for senior leaders, helping them gain clarity and perspective on challenges related to change, uncertainty, and team effectiveness.   Get in touch with Phil Hornby↓ Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philhornby Resources for further exploration: https://www.forproductpeople.com/ | https://www.talkingroadmaps.com/episodes     Michael Hunter   Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the compelling voice behind the Uncommon Leadership podcast.   For over 35 years, he's guided leaders across six continents, helping them navigate the demanding realities of burnout, overwhelm, and the multifaceted challenges of today's global business landscape.   He champions the creation of truly authentic and resilient teams, guiding leaders to align their personal fulfillment with profound business success. His unique approach enables individuals and teams to move beyond merely surviving daily pressures, into a state where they can truly thrive and innovate with ease.   Michael's mission is to help leaders, CEOs, and founding teams create and inhabit their legacy, elevating themselves in a way that is safe and sustainable.   Want to build an uncommon, unstoppable team? Get in touch with Michael Hunter:   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

Is your leadership style secretly costing your company millions?   Many leaders today fall prey to the dangerous pressure of hiding their true selves.   And this is draining more than just energy.   It's slowly piling up invisible walls within your team—stifling innovation, and quietly sabotaging your bottom line.   The old playbook for leaders is failing in today's unpredictable world. It's creating environments of fear, distrust, and burnout, leaving organizations vulnerable to the chaos of rapid change.   So today, on the newest episode of the Uncommon Leadership podcast, I sit down with the Managing Director at SoftEd, David Mantica, to pull back the curtain.   David has seen how businesses operate from every angle, and with that insight, we explore how true leadership isn't about control, but about authentic connection.   It's about bringing your whole self to work, understanding your brain's biases, and cultivating curiosity to truly empower your people.   If you want to create a workplace where people are truly engaged and excited about "why" they do what they do, then grab a seat and join in the conversation.   --   Is this podcast right for you?: Yes, if you want to build trust and create a long-lasting impact at your organization by showing up as your whole self. Yes, if you are ready to let go of micromanaging or controlling behaviors and lead your team by empowering them. Yes, if you're open to understanding your own biases, recognize when you're not at your best, & actively seek feedback from your team members or colleagues. Yes, if you're determined to create a culture where people feel safe to be themselves, express ideas, and even make mistakes. Yes, if you're just a leader, CEO, or CXO—trying to lead your organization through burnout or stifled growth. --   About the Speakers   David Mantica As Managing Director at SoftEd, David Mantica is dedicated to empowering knowledge workers by providing comprehensive training, coaching, and advisory services.   Leveraging his deep expertise, he equips professionals with critical skills in areas like AI, Agile, and leadership, enabling them to thrive and innovate effectively in today's complex, VUCA (Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, Ambiguity) business world, all while advocating for sustainable, trust-driven profitability.   With over 30 years of experience and more than 700 speaking engagements, David actively equips professionals with the knowledge, credentials, and confidence needed to lead, deliver, and innovate effectively.   Get in touch with David Mantica↓ Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-mantica/ Or Email: dmantica@gmail.com   Michael Hunter↓ Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the compelling voice behind the Uncommon Leadership podcast.   For over 35 years, he's guided leaders across six continents, helping them navigate the demanding realities of burnout, overwhelm, and the multifaceted challenges of today's global business landscape.   He champions the creation of truly authentic and resilient teams, guiding leaders to align their personal fulfillment with profound business success. His unique approach enables individuals and teams to move beyond merely surviving daily pressures, into a state where they can truly thrive and innovate with ease.   Michael's mission is to help leaders, CEOs, and founding teams create and inhabit their legacy, elevating themselves in a way that is safe and sustainable.   Want to build an uncommon, unstoppable team? Get in touch with Michael Hunter:   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/humbugreality/   Website: https://uncommonteams.com/   Newsletter: https://uncommonteams.com/newsletter-archive/   Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UncommonLeadershipPodcast   Presented By: Uncommon Change

Imagine being constantly caught off guard by problems you never saw coming, while carrying the weight of leadership decisions that could make or break your organization.   It's a tough spot, and frankly, a sad reality for many leaders who've unintentionally built walls, missing crucial insights that could save them millions.   Welcome to another powerful episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast! I'm Michael Hunter, and today, I'm honored to speak with someone who's witnessed this costly pattern firsthand: Dan Tocchini.   Tocchini is a true leadership transformation expert, with over 35 years of experience helping executive teams break through seemingly impossible barriers.   In this conversation, he reveals exactly how siloed processes create dangerous blind spots—blind spots that can cost millions or, even worse, derail your entire venture.   He also tackles the hard questions head-on: How do you balance openness with authority?   How do you create cultures where people feel genuinely confident to take risks?   And most importantly, how do you turn obstacles into opportunities through what he calls "fascination"—a deeper level of curiosity that transforms breakdowns into breakthroughs.   You'll also get a sneak peek into his three pillars of effective leadership and his proven change management framework that explains why a surprising 40% of your team sits on the fence during transitions—and, crucially, how to win them over.   This isn't just a feel-good leadership theory. It's a practical roadmap to prevent small problems from becoming million-dollar crises. So tune in now!   --   Key Learnings from this Conversation: Isolating aspects of your leadership or team guarantees costly surprises and missed opportunities. Openness about challenges empowers your team to deliver solutions you'd never find alone. Don't avoid discomfort or difficult conversations. Foster a culture where genuine inquiry, not rigid authority, drives rapid learning and pivots. Your actions, not just your words, build the trust and define the culture your team will embody. Unite your team around collective success to navigate conflict effectively and achieve breakthrough results. A leader's discipline to care, even when others don't, is vital for long-term team health and preventing future issues. --   Want to get in touch with the speakers?   About Dan Tocchini: Dan Tocchini brings over 35 years of experience transforming executive teams for companies like Microsoft and ESPN. He champions a no-fluff approach, focusing on courageous leadership and creative conflict resolution. Dan Tocchini believes a leader with a clear vision is never held hostage by circumstance or history. Get in touch with him: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantocchini/   About Michael Hunter: Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the host of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast. He is dedicated to exploring leadership principles that empower individuals to lead with authenticity and impact. You can connect with Michael Hunter by clicking on this link: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   --   For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw   Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165 Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj   Presented By: Uncommon Change

Ever wonder why some teams thrive through chaos while others crumble?   It's not about micromanagement or perfect plans—it's about trust. It's about fierce loyalty.   In this powerful episode, I, Michael Hunter, and DocuSign's Director of Engineering, Wes Clines, decode the true essence of an uncommon leader.   Wes shares his battle-tested "hacks" to transform teams through transparency, consistency, and non-negotiable, genuine communications.   More than just theory, this conversation offers a peek into a leader's essential toolkit, showing you how to move beyond management and truly begin to lead.   Discover how investing in genuine connection, embracing imperfection, and fostering open dialogue creates a culture where people don't just perform—they're empowered, resilient, and ready to follow you anywhere.   Ready to transform your leadership and unleash your team's full, untapped potential?   Tune into the full Uncommon Leadership Podcast episode now!   --   Your learnings from the podcast: Transparency cultivates trust. Openly communicate "why" and how decisions are made to build psychological safety. A leader's reactions to mistakes (learning over blame) can empower teams to take strategic risks. Prioritizing deep, 1-on-1 connections can help uncover individual talents, strengths, and weaknesses. Embrace continuous progress and learning from inevitable mistakes for sustainable team performance. Lead beyond management through genuine connection, driving higher output and retention. --   Want to get in touch with the speakers?   About Wes Clines: Wes Clines is the Director of Engineering at DocuSign, leading developer infrastructure and tools teams. With a rich background from his 15 years at Microsoft, Wes is passionate about fostering authentic team cultures built on trust and open communication. Connect with Wes Clines on LinkedIn by clicking here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wes-clines/   About Michael Hunter: Michael Hunter is the founder of Uncommon Teams and the host of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast. He is dedicated to exploring leadership principles that empower individuals to lead with authenticity and impact. You can connect with Michael Hunter by clicking on this link: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   --   For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Hello there!   I'm Michael Hunter, founder of Uncommon Teams, and I'm so glad you found this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast.   I started this series because I constantly meet leaders battling burnout and searching for deeper impact.   While I may not have all the answers you're looking for, I truly believe that professional and personal success hinges on aligning personal fulfillment with business objectives.    And today, my extraordinary guest, Stephen Snyder, reveals how he found his compass.   Stephen, a seasoned insurance and employee benefits expert, shares how a quirky DISC assessment helped him uncover his unique personality.   This self-discovery fundamentally reshaped his approach to every interaction—especially the tough ones.   You'll also hear Stephen's powerful realization about navigating uncomfortable situations, like networking events, where he discovered that authentic connection isn't about rigid tactics or hard sells, but about embracing shared vulnerability and genuine curiosity.   Our conversation then deepens into why Stephen's profound empathy isn't just a personal trait, but an indispensable asset in leadership.   Join us, and you just might find the key to unlocking your true self for greater happiness in work and life.   --   Learnings in a Nutshell:   Understand your own personality and triggers to lead yourself and others more effectively. Realize most people feel awkward in new situations; this shared vulnerability builds confidence and connection. Empathy is your superpower. Seeing people as individuals, not just roles, builds trust, solves problems, and creates psychological safety. Communication and relationships are two-sided. When we invest in people authentically, the ripple effects extend far beyond our direct interactions. -- Want to get in touch with the speakers?   About Stephen Snyder: Stephen Snyder is an insurance and employee benefits expert with over 16 years of experience, passionate about helping people navigate complex systems and build genuine connections. He champions a people-first approach, using his insights to foster empathetic leadership and empower thriving teams. Get in touch with him: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephensnyder1/   About Michael Hunter: Michael Hunter, founder of Uncommon Teams, empowers leaders to cultivate harmony, unlock team potential, and help people "debug themselves." He guides clients to integrate mind, heart, body, and spirit, fostering safe environments where individuals and teams achieve uncommon impact. You can connect with Michael Hunter by clicking on this link: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   -- For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Whether you're battling burnout, striving for breakthrough innovation, or simply sense that something isn't quite right with your leadership journey, you are far from alone.   And, you've arrived at an exciting episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, which just might help you navigate these feelings.   In this episode, I, Michael Hunter, sit down with the incredible Viveka von Rosen—a celebrated LinkedIn expert, bestselling author, and transformational speaker who literally lives by her philosophy of "playing all day."    Together, we uncover the hidden truths behind genuine success, radical self-trust, and building truly empowered teams.   Viveka shares her own raw, vulnerable journey from corporate burnout—a path that led her to question everything.   She reveals how ignoring the subtle whispers of intuition can escalate into loud, undeniable shouts, forcing us to finally listen. Her story is a powerful reminder: don't wait for a crisis to make your pivot.   But how do you find the time for these shifts? Will you need to wake up at 4:30 AM or work late nights?   The answer is shockingly simple and extremely practical.   So, take a seat and join in the conversation that goes beyond just finding time. It’s about fundamentally changing how we approach work and lead. --   Here's what you can expect to learn from this podcast↓ Learn why approaching work with joy and enthusiasm is a proven path to unprecedented productivity, less procrastination, and real, sustainable success. Discover simple, low-stakes ways to practice trusting that inner knowing, saving yourself from future regret. Discover the ultimate hack for truly valuing your team members. Learn why allowing team members to "outgrow" their roles isn't a cost, but a powerful opportunity for your business to transform and thrive. Learn to build a work culture of open communication and flexibility that empowers everyone to bring their unique brilliance to the table. --   Want to get in touch with the speakers?   About Viveka von Rosen Viveka von Rosen is a celebrated LinkedIn expert, bestselling author, and transformational speaker. Having successfully pivoted from corporate burnout herself, she now empowers executives and entrepreneurs to align their authentic selves with their business goals, helping them build their legacy and unlock their full potential through her work at Beyond the Dream Board. Get in touch with her: Viveka@beyondthedreamboard.com   About Michael Hunter: Michael Hunter is the host of the Uncommon Leadership podcast and founder of Uncommon Teams, guiding leaders to align personal fulfillment with business success and cultivate authentic teams. You can connect with Michael Hunter by clicking on this link: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   -- For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Just can't shake the feeling that your career isn't quite aligning with who you truly are?   If so, you're not alone. Many leaders wrestle with these exact challenges every single day.   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I, Michael Hunter, am diving deep into these very real struggles with the brilliant Dr. Rebecca Parsons, former CTO of ThoughtWorks.   We intend to uncover unconventional insights that can transform your leadership, your team, and your entire sense of fulfillment.   Dr. Parsons pulls back the curtain on her remarkable journey, starting with a surprising truth: even at a young age, she knew the secret to preventing that "off" feeling. It was all about defining success on her terms and embracing her authentic self—someone who truly loved math, science, and everything geeky!   This is her story about how she relentlessly refused to compromise who she really was.   What allowed her to develop such profound self-awareness so early?   What empowered her to challenge norms and even prove a university professor wrong when he doubted women's capabilities in tech?   Let's find out together. We'll discover why the authentic ability to say "I don't know" is a superpower and how focusing on outcomes instead of micromanaging unlocks creativity.   Dr. Rebecca Parsons wraps her compelling journey with a bombshell: if 100% of your "innovations" succeed, you're taking too little risk. She goes on to explain the crucial difference between a bad idea and a constructive failure—a distinction that could be the key to your organization's very survival.   Take a seat and join us as we tackle some of the most troublesome quandaries in organizational leadership.   --   Want to get in touch with the speakers?   About Dr. Rebecca Parsons: A former CTO of ThoughtWorks for 17 years, Dr. Parsons is a renowned technologist and advocate for diversity in STEM, known for her expertise in tech strategy and evolutionary architecture. https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-rebecca-parsons/   About Michael Hunter: Michael Hunter is the host of the Uncommon Leadership podcast and founder of Uncommon Teams, guiding leaders to align personal fulfillment with business success and cultivate authentic teams. https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   --   For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Ever feel like you're doing great at work, hitting all your targets... but secretly, something just feels off?   Then this episode on the Uncommon Leadership Podcast is for you. Join me as I interview Dr. Maria H. Andersen, a learning engineer, EdTech CEO, and highly experienced educator, on the importance of finding the balance between personal fulfilment and professional success.   We talk at length about making intentional choices with your energy and how focusing on where you can make a difference is key to navigating an overwhelming world.   We also explore fascinating strategies like Replenishing Personal Resources and Idea Collisions to prevent burnout and spark exciting innovations.   Dr. Andersen's expertise in fostering creativity, establishing healthy boundaries, and creating positive company cultures makes this conversation essential for leaders navigating the complex intersection of personal well-being and professional excellence.   If you're ready to make that change, reclaim your energy, and build a path that's truly yours, then tune in now!   Want to get in touch with the speakers? Dr. Maria H. Andersen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariahandersen/ Michael Hunter: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   -- For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Have things not been working out for you lately? Like you're stuck, and you know deep down that something needs to shift?   If you're here, give yourself a pat on the back because you've already taken the first step to embracing change.   First off, I'd like to welcome you to this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, where I interview Tamar Stolz, a leadership and business strategy coach, and deliberate on the importance of bringing one's authentic self to everything they do.   Identifying your strengths can help you reframe setbacks, overcome self-doubt, and self-comparisons. It can also help you ditch the one-size-fits-all approach and create strategies that work for you!   Tamar addresses these topics head-on, sharing her powerful personal experiences with overcoming self-doubt. She also introduces her signature "ALIGN" framework, which focuses on strategic alignment and can help you navigate through uncertainty.   But it all starts with self-awareness. Change begins when you acknowledge and step into your authentic self.   To close, I'd like to leave you with this timeless wisdom: Be yourself. Everyone else is taken.   If you're ready to make that change and build a path that's truly yours, this episode provides the tools and frameworks you need to get started.   And if you still need help, we're just one text away!   Get in touch with the speakers: Tamar Stolz: contact@tamarstolz.com Michael Hunter: https://uncommonteams.com/work-with-me/   -- For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Presented By: Uncommon Change

In this episode of Uncommon Leadership, Michael Hunter sits down with Scott Harvey, an FBI-trained hostage negotiator, speaker, author, and business communication consultant, to unpack the often-overlooked skill that separates good leaders from great ones: the ability to connect through communication.   Harvey draws from his extensive experience, including his time as a D.A.R.E. officer and his work in conflict resolution and advocating for mental health discussions. His unique background provides a fresh, pragmatic, and deeply human perspective on leading with influence and building relationships that thrive.     This isn't just theory; it's hard-won wisdom from someone who has navigated life-or-death conversations.   Whether you’re leading a meeting or navigating a tense conversation, this episode is a masterclass in reading the room—and reshaping the outcome through the power of words.   For any leader who wants to be heard, trusted, and remembered, this one’s a must. Tune in today.   Want to get in touch with Scott Harvey? Email: scott@speakingofharvey.com Website: SpeakingofHarvey.com   For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com   Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: Uncommon Change

Can genuine care and affection for your people truly drive business results?   According to Ryan Rigterink, the answer is a resounding yes.   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I welcome Ryan Victor to explore the powerful yet often underestimated impact of leading with genuine care and affection.   Rigterink shares his journey of transformation and introduces his philosophy of "Purpose Management," a framework rooted in leading with authentic love. Herein, he dives deep into how intentional value creation for employees can deliver hard, measurable business benefits.   He also challenges the traditional view that businesses must be cold and transactional, presenting a compelling case for why warmth, empathy, and genuine concern for people's well-being are essential components of effective leadership.   Tune into this conversation as it serves as a powerful reminder that leading with genuine care and affection isn't just ethically superior—it's a strategic advantage that fetches remarkable returns in terms of employee retention, performance, and overall success.   To access more insights from Ryan Rigterink, explore his website: workgaze.com or email him at ryan@workgaze.com   And for more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for my newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com.     Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj      Presented By: UncommonChange

If you've ever felt successful on the outside but empty inside, this podcast is for you.   With over a decade of personal transformation and leadership experience, Maurice Martin shares his powerful journey from deep depression to becoming a transformational coach and motivational speaker.   After years of hiding his authentic self and experiencing success while suffering internally, Martin reached a breaking point that prompted a profound personal transformation.   In this episode of Uncommon Leadership, Michael Hunter and Maurice Martin dive into the crucial role of authenticity, personal growth, and leadership. Martin emphasizes that meaningful change doesn't require dramatic epiphanies, but comes through consistent small choices that build habits and momentum over time.   Martin's expertise in navigating personal challenges, developing authentic leadership, and driving personal growth makes this a must-listen for anyone feeling stuck, burned out, or searching for a greater purpose.   Explore more from Maurice Martin, including his book "Your But Is Too Big": https://www.mauricefmartin.com/store   Connect with Maurice here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricefmartin/   For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for my newsletter at https://uncommonteams.com.    Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: Get notified on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9vaDKz5TI7gaWKLc801Dw    Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple- https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/uncommon-leadership/id1654637165  Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGceaZgVWxGQCXcrmgj    Presented By: UncommonChange