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In this final episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast for 2025 (and Julie’s last episode as a host), Julie and Kirsty wrap up the month’s industry news, including the new streaming quotas legislation, the Screen Australia Drama Report, the Netflix / Paramount / Warner Brothers Discovery saga, and our Spotify Wrapped stats for the year.Plus: all of your December screen industry news headlines from around the country...This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.00:00 Intro00:41 Kirsty’s Japan Prize Trip & Julie Starts at Screen Queensland02:45 Our Spotify Wrapped Results for 202504:27 Streaming Quotas05:58 Screen Australia Drama Report10:06 U16 Social Media Ban12:51 Warner Brothers Discovery + Netflix or Paramount17:36 Letterboxd’s Video Store19:32 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities25:10 What we’ve been watching28:32 What’s in production around Australia29:03 Farewell, Julie & see you all in 2026!30:28 Outro & Acknowledgement of CountryLinks:Our Spotify Wrapped for 2025: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7402212521182744576 Streaming Quotas: https://deadline.com/2025/11/australia-streaming-quotas-sworn-into-law-1236630348Screen Australia Drama Report: https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/sa/media-centre/news/2025/12-02-drama-report-2024-2025Warner Bros. Discovery + Netflix or Paramount: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-13/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-skydance-netflix-battle/106126968U16 Social Media Ban: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/09/australia-under-16-social-media-ban-begins-apps-listed Letterboxd’s Video Store: https://letterboxd.com/video-storeAACTA Nominees: https://www.aacta.org/aacta-awards/winners-and-nominees AACTA Wake In Fright Recipient: https://www.aacta.org/aacta-development-initiatives/wake-in-fright-development-initiativeAACTA Reg Grundy Award: https://www.aacta.org/our-news/media-room/top-5-finalists-announced-for-the-aacta-reg-grundy-award ASSG Awards: https://if.com.au/better-man-narrow-road-to-the-deep-north-lead-winners-at-assg-awardsASE Ellie Awards: https://if.com.au/the-order-apple-cider-vinegar-win-at-ellie-awardsACS State Awards: https://cinematographer.org.au/state-and-territory-awards Cameraimage Golden Frog: https://www.filmink.com.au/public-notice/australian-cinematographer-benjamin-bryan-takes-home-the-golden-frog-at-camerimage-2025-for-feature-documentary-iron-winter If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark. This episode was edited by Kirsty Stark.

In this episode, Producer Daren Smith returns to share more about his production fund for independent features. Daren was previously a guest on Episode 34 and is back to answer all of the questions you submitted after listening to the episode.He shares insights on marketing, building relationships with investors and understanding market needs, how each film's finance structure works, and how to manage the uncertainty of the industry.---This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.---Listen to hear Daren discuss:Brotherhood: A Cinematic Musical, the first film being greenlit under Producer Fund 1why you need to start marketing on Day 1finance plans for independent films, and why they shouldn't be 100% equitywhy he's chosen to release his films theatricallyhow to reach out to investors and the importance of continued outreach over timetracking progress and analysing your numbersFollow Daren and his work:Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmithDaren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.coGet your free copy of Daren's book, Blockbuster: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/blockbuster Follow Brotherhood - Producer Fund One's first film:https://newsletter.craftsmanfilms.co/posts/brotherhood-update-composer-sessions-social-media-now-liveInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/brotherhoodmusical/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brotherhoodmusicalYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BrotherhoodMusicalSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/2qxWEdMELDtPnr5qvq7Rsq This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by ⁠⁠⁠Kirsty Stark⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode, Kirsty chats to Enzo Tedeschi, a director, producer, and writer at Deadhouse Films, and how he’s sustained a thriving indie production company through significant industry changes.Enzo has often been at the forefront of experimental production models made possible through changes in technology, from his early crowdfunded feature film The Tunnel, which now has an audience of over 25 million, to work across genre projects and documentary. He discusses audience building, the differences in audience building between documentary and narrative projects, evolving business models and the role of technology in shaping the future of indie filmmaking.Listen to hear Enzo discuss:How the traditional industry prevented Enzo and his team from their planned distribution rollout for The TunnelWhy crowdfunding isn’t the right move for 90% of projectsHow to cast a project in a way that increases its likely pathway to audienceThe importance of recognising - and leveraging - the story behind your projectHow Enzo is using AI on his latest project And much more!Follow Enzo and his work:Enzo Tedeschi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/enzo-tedeschiEnzo Tedeschi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enzotedeschiDeadhouse TV on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/deadhousetvEnzo’s website: https://www.enzotedeschi.com.auDeadhouse Films: https://www.deadhousefilms.comThe Tunnel: https://www.thetunnelmovie.netThis Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox.

In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of the creator economy with Keith Quinn, founder of Engine Room - a new kind of studio helping independent creators turn their data into strategy, growth, and sustainable income.Keith’s career has spanned 25 years at the intersection of entertainment, digital innovation, and entrepreneurship. From Project Greenlight with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, to running Paramount’s original digital content division, he’s watched the media landscape expand, contract, and re-invent itself multiple times.Now, with Engine Room, Keith is giving creators the kind of analytical and financial support once reserved for Hollywood studios. He explains how data can empower creative growth, why YouTube has quietly become the biggest player on TV screens, and what the next five years hold for creators, streamers, and the screen industry at large.Listen to hear Keith discuss:The evolution of entertainment: From the streaming boom to the rise of independent, open-platform creators.The creator economy as small business: Why data and audience insight are the new creative superpowers.Inside Engine Room: How the company helps creators understand and act on their analytics - with real examples of how simple insights doubled reach and revenue.The new model for creator growth: Subscription tools, sponsorship data, and how Engine Room connects like-minded creators to help build ‘creative clusters’ to leverage their successPlus: Keith’s big idea to change the future of our industryFollow Keith and his work:Keith Quinn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quinnkeith/Engine Room: https://www.engineroom.com.auThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠ and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.

In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month’s industry news, including a summary of the streaming quotas bill that’s just been introduced to parliament, a wrap-up of the Australian International Movie Convention (AIMC), and what’s happening in AI.Plus: all of your November screen industry news headlines from around the country...This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount⁠⁠⁠ on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.00:00 Intro00:40 Julie’s new role at Screen Queensland02:10 AACTA Festival’s 2026 line-up 03:15 Streaming Quotas update07:40 AIMC wrap-up & what’s happening in the feature space11:57 AI update: copyright laws & OMNI AI film festival14:30 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities19:25 What we’ve been watching20:22 What’s in production around Australia21:13 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of CountryPodcast News:Julie’s new role at Screen Queensland: https://screenqueensland.com.au/sq-news/media-centre/screen-queensland-appoints-julie-eckersley-as-executive-director-screen-content/2026 AACTA Festival Program Launch: https://www.aactafestival.comStreaming Quotas:https://www.screenproducers.org.au/media/release/?id=SPA-01860https://deadline.com/2025/11/australia-streaming-quota-analysis-1236607691https://www.saveaustralianstories.com.auAIMC:https://cinemaassociation.asn.au/members-events/2025-aimcAI Updates:https://if.com.au/industry-commends-government-for-ruling-out-tdm-exception-in-copyright-lawshttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/deepfakes-denmark-copyright-law-artificial-intelligencehttps://omnifilmfestival.comThe Cinema That Never Was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfludfofQGwAwards & Announcementshttps://www.screenhub.com.au/news/news/natalie-miller-fellowship-awards-dual-recipients-with-2025-grant-2684678https://if.com.au/cornel-wilczek-jed-kurzel-meg-washington-on-top-at-screen-music-awardshttps://cinematographer.org.au/state-and-territory-awardshttps://if.com.au/screen-nsw-selects-daniel-king-for-first-nations-screen-fellowship https://if.com.au/spa-announces-pitch-on-demand-shortlist-for-2025https://www.sbs.com.au/aboutus/2025/10/29/sbs-nitv-and-screen-australia-announce2025-digital-originals-shortlisthttps://www.aacta.org/our-news/media-room/strawflower-wins-the-2025-aacta-pitch-focus-initiativeIndustry opportunitieshttps://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/narrative-content-production/finance-attraction/international-initiatives/talent-gatewayhttps://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/narrative-content-production/finance-attraction/international-initiatives/global-producers-exchange https://if.com.au/whos-the-next-big-thing-submit-your-picks-for-ifs-2026-rising-talent-listhttps://www.sbs.com.au/aboutus/2025/11/04/sbs-calls-for-bold-thought-provoking-factual-ideas-up-to-50000-in-development-funding-available https://www.screenproducers.org.au/spa-awards Race Around the World: https://if.com.au/abc-opens-applications-for-race-around-the-world-revival/Creator Economy Masterclass: https://www.screenproducers.org.au/events/details/?id=cdc82e50-50a7-4aee-b8f0-a7d9c14bbf57Wrap-UpJapan Prize: https://www.nhk.or.jp/jp-prize/english/index.htmlDaren Smith Episode (submit your questions to weinterruptpod@gmail.com): https://open.spotify.com/episode/38P6KVO39ekPEqlmw1C2dxIf you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark. This episode was edited by Brandon Boyer.

* Could you be our next We Interrupt This Broadcast co-host? *Read more and fill out an EOI here: https://forms.gle/oQgAoJXgnQpejfej9In this episode, Julie Eckersley chats to Amelia Darmawan, Co-Founder and Executive Producer at Totem, a company that’s quietly reimagining what a digital-first entertainment business can be.The company designs next-gen content businesses for media companies, brands, and creators, helping great IP reach millions more online.As Director of Strategy & Content, Amelia helps drive innovation across original content, revenue expansion, brand partnerships, and AI-powered workflows.She shares some of what she’s learnt while shaping the next generation of entertainment brands. Listen to hear Amelia discuss:The shift she’s seen across the screen and creative industries over the last 10 yearsHow the benefits can go both ways as we move into true collaborations between traditional media creators and the creatorsphereHow to maximise your IP and reach new audiences onlineHow to understand and work with the algorithmsThe importance of staying nimble as things continue to change and evolveFollow Amelia and her work:Amelia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amelia-darmawan-8a5b2541 Totem: www.totem.globalBondi Rescue on YouTube: www.youtube.com/bondirescueTwisted Lunchbox on YouTube: www.youtube.com/twistedlunchboxPeking Duck on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pekingduk Try Guys on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tryguys This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠ and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠AFTRS⁠⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year.

Could you be our next We Interrupt This Broadcast co-host? Read more and fill out an EOI here: https://forms.gle/oQgAoJXgnQpejfej9---What does it take to build a thriving, sustainable creative business in the new media landscape?In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of digital creators with Farhad Meher-Homji, Co-Founder and Head of Strategy at Changer Studios - an organisation that’s helped tens of thousands of creators in over 40 countries turn passion into profession.Farhad breaks down how the creator economy has matured from the fringes of entertainment into a powerful mainstream force and why the smartest creators now think like entrepreneurs. He unpacks how to build a content strategy that actually works, how to read audience data beyond the vanity of subscriber counts, and why psychographics - understanding why your audience connects - is the secret weapon of modern storytelling.---This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠AFTRS⁠⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. https://www.aftrs.edu.au/---Listen to hear Farhad discuss:The shift from attention as a metric to attention as a business modelHow creators are turning audiences into communities, and communities into media businessesWhy “audience ownership” is a key step for long-term sustainabilityWhat burnout looks like in the creator economy, and how to build for longevityHow authenticity, not production value, is now the ultimate marker of qualityThe rise of “human-led, AI-assisted” creativity, and the value of real human connectionFollow Farhad and his work:Farhad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farhadmh/Changer Studios: https://www.changerstudios.comChanger on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/changerstudios-----This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley⁠ and edited by Brandon Boyer and Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠---This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. https://www.aftrs.edu.au/

In this episode, Kirsty talks to Daren Smith of Craftsman Films, a Utah-based independent producer with four features and multiple seasons of TV under his belt. Daren shares how he set up Craftsman Films, as an independent studio, and the new $10 million dollar film fund he’s raising, with the goal of producing ten profitable “blockbuster indies.”He also discusses the challenges of independent filmmaking, including financing, development and distribution, and how he’s addressing these issues through a new model inspired by venture capital structures.---This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year.---Listen to hear Daren discuss:The five key challenges of independent filmmakingCraftsman Films’ new model for indie film financingHow to approach a pitch so that private investors will listenThe importance of building your personal brandHow reaching out on LinkedIn beats cold emailingWhy it’s important for a film fund to have a clear thesisThe difference between asking ‘what’ questions and ‘why’ questionsFollow Daren and his work:Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmithDaren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.coGet your free copy of Blockbuster: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/blockbuster ---This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠Kirsty Stark and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠⁠⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year.

In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month's industry news, from distributors making AI edits and Tilly Norwood's debut through to shifting audience habits and some great industry opportunities to apply for.Plus: all of your October screen industry news headlines from around the country...This episode is sponsored by ⁠AFTRS⁠, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School.00:00 Intro00:41 Exciting news! Our new sponsor & a new partnership.03:01 Critters - a $30m "AI-integrated" animated feature film05:39 AI "actress" Tilly Norwood07:40 Tropfest's stance on AI08:20 Trump, Tiktok & Tariffs09:46 Gen Z watching TV through social clips14:23 Do fans move from YouTube to TV?17:46 Industry news, key appointments & opportunities09:20 Opportunities & upcoming events20:17 What we've been watching22:43 What’s in production around Australia23:24 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of CountryPodcast NewsSay hello to our new podcast sponsor AFTRS and use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount⁠ on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year: https://www.aftrs.edu.au Learn more about the upcoming AACTA Festival. We'll be there as official media partners: https://www.aacta.org/p/2025-aacta-festival AI Round-Up⁠⁠Deep Dive with Clayton Jacobson: https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.substack.com/p/ep-30-reimagining-filmmaking-with Critterz "AI-integrated" Feature Animationhttps://www.critterz.tv/ https://www.screendaily.com/news/ai-integrated-animation-critterz-in-production-for-uks-vertigo-films/5208690.article Unauthorised AI Editinghttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7376751430831079425-t5Yg/https://deadline.com/2025/09/together-china-gay-scene-ai-edit-neon-1236554804/ https://variety.com/2025/film/news/ai-actress-tilly-norwood-talent-agents-zurich-summit-1236533454/ Tilly Norwoodhttps://variety.com/2025/film/news/tilly-norwood-ai-eline-van-der-velden-1236543362/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tilly-norwood-ai-actress-betty-gilpin-guest-essay-1236396217/https://www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-statement-synthetic-performerAI "not out of the question" at Tropfest⁠https://www.screenhub.com.au/news/interviews/tropfest-founder-john-polson-says-ai-not-out-of-the-question-in-2026-festival-return-2678406/⁠Trump, TikTok & Tariffshttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/trump-approves-tiktok-deal-through-executive-order.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/10/10/barron-trump-tipped-top-tiktok-jobhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-30/fears-trump-film-tariff-could-hurt-australian-film-industry/105834582Audience ShiftsGenZ only watches TV through social clips: https://theankler.com/p/gen-z-only-watches-your-show-through Do Creator Fans Move from YouTube to TV? https://businessoftv.substack.com/p/do-creator-fans-move-from-youtube Industry News & Opportunities⁠AACTA Screen Careers Expo⁠AACTA Young Stars ⁠Reg Grundy AwardAIF Insider Sessions: Writers RoomAGSC Scoring SummitIf you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark.

In this episode, Kirsty talks to Creative Producer Nicholas Colla from LateNite Films in Melbourne about how he and his business partner Chris Hocking have built a slate of work that balances great storytelling with highly accomplished VFX and animation.Nick shares their approach to production, including integrating post production workflows and using technology in their planning and development process, plus the lessons they've brought into live action from their animation work.Listen to hear Nick discuss:Why planning in pre-production is crucial when making ambitious projects on lower budgetsHow LateNite approached Wizards of Oz and its 1200 VFX shotsThe technology that can assist with planning your shoot with a small team in development and preThe lessons LateNite has taken from animation into their live action workWhy the Australian screen industry needs to rethink development.Follow Nick and his work:LateNite Films: https://latenitefilms.com/Nick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-colla-07865790Nick on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickcollaLateNite on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@latenitefilmsRebooted: https://youtu.be/1Rkn6rnsgc4?si=MI_iKFy2-KjREu1FThe Wizards of Aus: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJSMFXYSojXotCa_NrjYM54ICmSmmCygg&si=Za3YlDg327mjyycRThe Future of Everything: https://youtu.be/cD2jXqBFaIQ?si=oLo32b-jNjm-yjevDeadbeat Ends Meet: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJaZsLppUqpzk4tjJxcnBJunVHITREyTz&si=2xp5r9TkDpH1M69hVideo reference in the episode: I Am Mother VR Storyboarding: https://youtu.be/M4Xy9vvpLvE?si=L6ovF7pmv99c0273This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠Kirsty Stark⁠⁠, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox.

In this episode, Julie talks to prolific producer Steve Jaggi, founder of Jaggi Entertainment, about how he has built one of Australia’s busiest independent studios. Steve unpacks his cradle-to-grave business model - spanning development, financing, production, post, VFX and distribution - and why being relentlessly audience-focused has been key to his global success.He shares candid insights into why legacy systems are struggling, how micro dramas and influencer-led casting are reshaping the industry, and why Australian producers must urgently rethink cost structures and audience engagement. Steve also reflects on AI, direct-to-consumer models, and what kind of leadership is needed to stop the industry’s “slow-moving train” from derailing.Listen to hear Steve discuss:The rise of vertical drama and mobile-first storytelling.Why influencer-driven casting is transforming audience definitions of quality.Rethinking cost, scale and sustainability in production.Preparing for disruption from AI, D2C models, and shifting global power.What kind of leadership the Australian industry needs right now.Follow Jaggi Entertainment:Jaggi Entertainment: https://www.jaggientertainment.com IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1863720You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/@jaggi_entertainmentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaggi_entertainmentFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaggientertainmentLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jaggientertainment/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠Julie Eckersley⁠, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox.

In this episode, Julie talks to award-winning filmmaker Clayton Jacobson, best known for Kenny, about his pioneering work with AI in film. Clayton shares how AI is helping him bypass traditional gatekeepers, transform creative workflows, and unlock decades of unrealised ideas. He speaks candidly about the opportunities and challenges of this rapidly evolving technology, how it can democratise creativity, and why he believes it will change the way we make and experience stories.Listen to hear Clayton discuss:How AI is transforming filmmaking and creative workflows.The future of storytelling beyond traditional gatekeepers.Iterative creative processes using AI tools.Rethinking collaboration, production, and budgets in screen content.The broader cultural impact of AI on creativity and human connection.Follow Clayton and his work:LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/clayton-jacobson-13453841Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/clayton.jacobson.79Youtube (portfolio): https://www.www.youtube.com/@GUNSHYCOWBOYS-285Escape AI: https://escape.ai/profile/gunshycowboys285 Dreamscreen Australia: https://www.dreamscreenaustralia.com/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠Julie Eckersley, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode, Julie Eckersley talks to Lee Naimo, Head of Creative for Grouse House at Haven’t You Done Well Productions, about the growth of online screen businesses in Australia and how to build a sustainable business model that works for you and your audience.Previously managing the Online and Games Unit at Screen Australia, Lee worked with Australian producers, writers, directors and gamemakers to elevate their projects and careers, and has great insight into how they’re succeeding in the marketplace.Even for those companies working in traditional media, online opportunities will need to make up at least one component of your future business strategy, so this is an episode not to miss!Listen to hear Lee discuss:The evolution of online content in AustraliaInnovative companies in the online spaceHow Grouse House is building opportunities for comedians to get their work in front of audiencesHow revenue stacking leads to sustainable business modelsWhy you should repurpose your existing content to find new audiencesWhat’s happening in the games space in AustraliaPlus, his big idea for the Australian industryFollow Lee, Grouse House and their work:⁠Haven’t You Done Well’s website: https://www.haventyoudonewell.com Grouse House’s website: https://www.haventyoudonewell.com/grouse-houseGrouse House on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNuaFLcbAeycQAIAW5s7T0QLee Naimo on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-naimo-689084233This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month's industry news, from the announcement of Tropfest 2.0 and an audience shift back to cinemas, through to Netflix's new staff announcements and some international successes for Australian work.Plus: all of your September screen industry news headlines from around the country...00:00 Intro00:41 Julie on Stake Out & Kirsty on holidays!03:46 Tropfest is back!05:49 The re-emergence of cinema 08:18 Industry news & key appointments09:20 Opportunities & upcoming events11:04 Netflix releases AI guidelines12:37 Australian successes overseas: The Emmys & Hollow Knight: Silksong17:03 What we've been watching19:13 What’s in production around Australia21:11 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of CountryWhat We've Been Up ToStake OutDeep Dive with Jonathon DuttonDeep Dive with Sam JockelScreen Well’s Psychosocial Safety courseAudience TrendsDeep Dive with Sam JenningsAdelaide Film FestivalMelbourne Is Getting Another Independent CinemaA24 Buys Cherry Lane TheaterThe MercuryCan Gen Alpha Save the Box Office?Aunty Donna / Grouse House’s New Streaming ServiceHow Dropout went from College Humor to multi-media powerhouseIndustry News & OpportunitiesNetflix AppointmentsLeanne Tonks appointed WIFT Chair AACTA Entries Now Open AACTA Young Stars CinefestOZ Feature WinnerCinefestOZ Shorts WinnersNetflix AI GuidelinesNetflix Clipping Feature Aquarius Films to Close Love on the Spectrum Wins Two EmmysScreenrights Cultural Fund RecipientsScreen Forever Session Call Out SPA GENR8 ConferenceHollow Knight: SilksongTeam CherryWhat We're WatchingLesbian Space Princess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nra14aUNYS8 Went Up the Hill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngflg43TKUI Top End Bub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDIbYTsWSqw Pasa Faho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQln1EvjeA CEEBS: https://www.tiktok.com/@ceebsseries HOOPS: https://www.tiktok.com/@transathletica.series Kangaroo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmaXOvLJNc Mystery Road: Origin S2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETZw4w-Hbs What's in ProductionStake Out: https://deadline.com/2025/08/brenton-thwaites-charlee-fraser-horror-stake-out-1236500324/ The Dispatcher: https://vicscreen.vic.gov.au/news/new-thriller-series-the-dispatcher-wraps-in-victoria Dog Park: https://www.filmink.com.au/public-notice/sit-stay-laugh-abcs-new-comedy-dog-park-begins-filming/ Happy House & Caper Crew: https://www.abc.net.au/about/media-centre/publicity-media-room/abc-unveils-two-new-original-children-s-series/105702130 Her Aussie Romance - Jaggi Entertainment:  https://if.com.au/colin-budds-her-aussie-romance-sets-melbourne-backdrop-with-mallory-jansen-ryan-corr-dannii-minogue/ Prima Facie: https://www.screendaily.com/news/prima-facie-starring-cynthia-erivo-gearing-up-to-shoot-at-londons-story-works-studios SXSW Sydney: https://www.sxswsydney.com/ Sony Scenescape: https://scene.sonyanz.com/sne-hub/explore-all/scenescape If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by Julie Eckersley and Kirsty Stark.This episode is proudly brought to you by Expanding Media & CrewHQ.

In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Jonathon Dutton, Managing Partner of Screen Well, about mental health and wellbeing in the Australian screen industry.Screen Well's mission is to improve the mental health and wellbeing outcomes of the Australian Screen industry - not an easy task when their recent survey in partnership with Griffith University found that 25% of our workforce is looking to leave the industry within the next 6 months!This is a must-listen episode for anyone wanting to better look after our people - on an individual, production / workplace and industry-wide level. Listen to hear Jonathon discuss:The structural challenges in our industry that make wellbeing so much harder to maintainWhat you can do to manage your own mental health and wellbeing, or 'put your own life jacket on first.'How Town Hall meetings on productions can help to shift the culture on set and make policies 'real.'Mental Health First Aid Training and the impact it makes when people are trained across a production.Why you should have the Support Act number on your callsheets.Psychosocial safety, and your responsibility as an employer under new legislation.Screen Well's Mental Health Summit, and upcoming Mental Health Action PlanFollow Screen Well and their work:Screen Well's website: ⁠https://www.screenwell.com.auPsychosocial Safety training: https://www.screenwell.com.au/creative-workplaces Mental Health First Aid training: https://www.screenwell.com.au/mhfa-training Screen Well on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/screenwell.com.auJonathon Dutton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathon-duttonBonus:Support Act (put this info on your callsheet!): https://supportact.org.au/individual-support/wellbeing-helplineThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠Kirsty Stark⁠, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Sam Jockel, Producer of Australian parenting documentary Seen, which has reached over 30,000 audience members and gone into profit within 4 months of release.Sam comes from outside the film industry, as a serial entrepreneur with expertise in community building across multiple businesses. Seen is her first feature film, and she used her business background to build a hybrid release model, working with distributor Bonsai Films.This is a must-listen episode for anyone interested in building audiences and community around a project. Sam openly shares her experience, including how difficult the process was, and whether it was worth it to challenge the norms of distribution.Listen to hear Sam discuss:Why someone needs to be working on audience building from the moment a film is conceivedHow much she raised at the film’s first fundraising event, and why it was so importantHer choice to build a distribution plan around community screenings, instead of targeting individual ticket salesHer initial reaction to the distribution models she was presented withThe difficulty of managing an impact campaign alone, and whether it was worth itHow Seen planned and managed their release, including the tools and platforms they used, how they ran events and the benefit of their websiteWhat she would pitch to the film industry as an outsider, to make it better for everyoneSam Jockel is an award-winning entrepreneur and content producer with over 15 years of experience, known for founding ParentTV, an innovative parenting platform, and building ALDI Mum and School Mum, online communities with over 650,000 members. Recognised by the World Summit Awards Globally winning the Learning and Education category for the Quality Education SDG, she has also taken on the role of producer tackling the tricky topic of parenting in modern times with the recently released documentary Seen.Follow Sam and her work:Seen’s official website: https://seenthefilm.comSeen Resources: https://seentheresources.comSeen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seendocumentarySam Jockel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samjockelParentTV: https://parenttv.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ParentTVOfficial Trailer:This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Samantha Jennings, Producer at Causeway Films - whose credits include Talk to Me, Cargo, Buoyancy and Of An Age.Sam breaks down the commitment that she and fellow Causeway producer Kristina Ceyton have to nurturing new Australian talent, and supporting them to direct internationally successful feature films.From the importance of authenticity in storytelling to the common traits amongst the diverse group of feature directors that Causeway has worked with, Sam’s advice is invaluable for anyone looking to build a career as a director in the screen industry.Key Takeaways:The importance of building relationships over timeHow to approach casting and packaging for featuresThe ideal budgets for feature films that Causeway will look to take onThe detail to which the directors they work with understand the audiences for their projectsWhy proof of concept shorts aren’t always the best pathway to directing featuresWhy you should build your own community of collaboratorsWhy the Australian industry needs to invest in building our next generation of cinemagoersSamantha Jennings and Kristina Ceyton co-founded Causeway Films with globally acclaimed THE BABADOOK in 2014, and produced Jennifer Kent’s follow up THE NIGHTINGALE. Causeway has launched many debuts on the global stage over the last decade, including Netflix Original CARGO starring Martin Freeman, Berlinale prize winner BUOYANCY by Rodd Rathjen, and Goran Stolevski’s YOU WON’T BE ALONE, OF AN AGE and HOUSEKEEPING FOR BEGINNERS, all released by Focus Features. In 2023, Causeway premiered Danny and Michael Philippou’s TALK TO ME at Sundance, which went onto become A24’s highest grossing genre release to date and earn over $140 million international box office. This year saw the release of the Philippous’ sophomore feature BRING HER BACK starring Sally Hawkins, distributed worldwide by A24 and Sony Pictures. Causeway is currently completing Dario Russo’s THE FOX starring Jai Courtenay and Emily Browning, and Adrian Chiarella’s LEVITICUS starring Joe Bird, Stacy Clausen and Mia Wasikowska.Follow Sam and her work:Causeway Films: http://www.causewayfilms.com.auCauseway Films on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/causeway_films Samantha Jennings on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-jennings-89674621/Samantha Jennings on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1209992 This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠

In this episode of We Interrupt This Broadcast, Julie and Kirsty wrap up this month's industry news, from the Future Vision Summit, The Logies and Triple J's Hottest 100 Australian Songs of All Time, through to YouTube's inclusion in the under 16 social media ban, and AI "showrunners."Plus: all of your August screen industry news headlines from around the country...00:00 Intro00:59 Julie’s production & Kirsty’s First Day UK launch2:01 Future Visions, The Logies & the Hottest 100 8:20 YouTube in the under 16 social media ban12:10 AI Updates: Productivity Commission, Netflix uses AI to cut costs in post; Amazon invests in Fable14:48 Industry news round-up: SBS, Netflix gossip & new Screen Australia guidelines16:48 Short film renaissance & other opportunities 17:41 Vale David Stratton18:02 What we've been watching21:15 What’s in production around the country22:08 Wrap-Up & Acknowledgement of CountryWhat We've Been Up ToFirst Day (now on YouTube in the UK): https://www.firstdayseries.comFuture Vision Summit, The Logies and the Hottest 100The Logies Winners List: https://tvtonight.com.au/2025/08/logie-awards-2025-winners.html Ruari Elkington's LinkedIn post about a Hottest 100 Australian Films of All Time: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ruarielkingtonallaboutcinema_cinema-love-pride-activity-7355369755404296192-dnXPUnder 16 Social Media BanAustralia adds YouTube to Kids Social Media Ban: https://www.c21media.net/news/australia-adds-youtube-to-kids-social-media-ban-due-to-predatory-algorithms/The Atlantic: What Kids Told Us About How to Get Them Off Their Phones: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/08/kids-smartphones-play-freedom/683742/AI UpdatesProductivity Commission Considers a Copyright Exception for AI Companieshttps://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/arts-in-30/productivity-tdm-exception-apra-amcos-aava-natsiaa-rudi-bremer/105588574Netflix uses AI effects for first time to cut costs: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vr4rymlw9oAmazon Invests in Fablehttps://variety.com/2025/digital/news/netflix-of-ai-amazon-invests-fable-showrunner-launch-1236471989/Industry NewsJames Taylor Departs SBS: https://mumbrella.com.au/sbs-managing-director-james-taylor-steps-down-884978 Kristen Hodges' Summaries of the Screen Australia Guidelines: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/everything-producers-need-know-new-screen-australia-kristen-hodges-vnbsc/OpportunitiesScreen Queensland Short Film Fund: https://screenqueensland.com.au/investment-support/short-film-fund/Screen NSW Short to Feature Fast Track Initiative: https://www.screen.nsw.gov.au/funding-support/short-to-feature-fast-track-initiativeAACTA Pitch Focus: https://www.aacta.org/aacta-development-initiatives/2025-aacta-pitch-focus/SPA Ones to Watch: https://www.screenproducers.org.au/events/details/?id=6412031e-a1f9-43f2-9ca1-5639baf0c887SPA Pitch on Demand: https://www.screenproducers.org.au/events/details/?id=35134e97-9c55-42cc-a217-10a1f224a375Vale David Strattonhttps://if.com.au/vale-david-stratton-beloved-australian-film-critic-and-writer/What We've Been WatchingMIFF 2025: https://miff.com.au/Together: https://if.com.au/box-office-together-opens-at-no-6-in-both-australia-and-us/Ryan Trahan's 50 States in 50 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTYbvU-aSf4What's in ProductionMosquito Bowl: https://screenqueensland.com.au/sq-news/media-centre/filming-begins-the-mosquito-bowl/Forever Young: https://if.com.au/josh-mullins-and-ulysses-olivers-forever-young-springs-to-life-in-the-hawkesbury-with-travis-jeffrey-socratis-otto/Screenworks (become a member to access their production list): https://screenworks.com.au If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review on Apple or give us 5 stars on Spotify to help us spread the word.We Interrupt This Broadcast is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kirsty Stark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.This episode is proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠.

In this episode, Julie Eckersley talks to Dr. David Court  - founder of Compton School, and one of the most influential champions of emerging screen talent in Australia.From the early days of his career in finance and policy to his work advising governments, structuring production deals, and founding Australia’s first business school for creatives, David has seen the screen industry from every angle.This is a conversation about the art of mentoring - why it matters, how it shapes the creative community, and the ripple effects it has long after the advice is given.Key Takeaways:Why mentoring is more than just giving advice.Why the wider screen industry not only benefits from but needs mentoring in order to thrive.Key advice for how to approach a mentor.How to make the most of the mentor/mentee relationship.Whether you’re a filmmaker, a creative entrepreneur, or a leader in any field, this conversation is about connection, guidance, and how the creative industries can thrive through structured knowledge transfer between generations.Follow David and his work:Compton School: https://compton.schoolRAINMAKERS: https://compton.school/rainmakers David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-court-058965/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠Subscribe and get weekly episodes in your inbox: https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.substack.com

In this episode, Julie Eckersley sits down with commercial and narrative filmmaker Michael V. Brown, whose mobile-first micro-dramas have racked up more than 60 million views on platforms like ReelShort and PocketFM.Michael shares his journey from indie filmmaking to mastering the vertical storytelling format - and why the rise of mobile-native content is one of the biggest opportunities for screen creatives today.Whether you’re a filmmaker, producer, or content strategist, this episode reveals what it takes to succeed in the fast-growing world of short-form, vertical drama, and why this format may be the future of global entertainment.Key Takeaways:Vertical Is a Format, Not a Limitation - Michael explains how vertical storytelling demands new creative muscles, but rewards them with massive audience reach.Treat Micro-Dramas Like Mini Features - Each short-form series is designed with tight structure, emotional hooks, and clear stakes, using traditional storytelling principles.Audiences Want Drama on the Go - With millions tuning into high-stakes, bite-sized stories, Michael sees mobile-first storytelling as a major opportunity for filmmakers to monetise and build audience.The Democratisation of Storytelling - Short-form vertical drama opens the door for underrepresented voices, new genres, and agile production models. It’s a playground for creators willing to experiment and iterate quickly.More about Michael V. Brown:Michael V. Brown is a commercial and narrative filmmaker who’s directed and/or produced campaigns for Merrell, CAT Footwear, Cisco, and Hershey’s, plus a growing slate of mobile-first micro-dramas that have pulled in over 60 million views across platforms like ReelShort and PocketFM.He produced the indie feature Hayseed, now streaming on Tubi and Amazon Prime, and available for rent or purchase on Apple, Vudu, and Google Play.Originally from Michigan, Michael was a film nerd and terrible athlete who didn’t realise making movies was a real job until college. Since then, he’s built a career blending intentional storytelling with sharp execution  - whether on set or in a Google Sheet.He’s currently developing filmmaker-focused tools to help indie creators forecast financial performance and avoid bad distribution deals, because he believes transparency shouldn't be a luxury in this industry.Follow Michael and his work:Website: www.michaelvbrown.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelvincentbrown/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/im.mvb Lose You to Love Me:https://pocketfm.com/episode/4b2de7f6c1e34bdab8e57ddb49f39b2f?campaign_name= More Information on vertical dramas and jobs in the space:Maple Studios: https://apply.workable.com/crazymaplestudio/Pocket FM Jobs: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/pocket-fm-jobs-worldwide/?currentJobId=4239056060Fast Company: Netlflix  to add vertical video: https://www.fastcompany.com/91330227/netflix-app-ui-tiktokThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Julie Eckersley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and proudly brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CrewHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Expanding Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠LinkedIn