Joe Rogan interviews Shane Smith, the co-founder of VICE Media. The two discuss various topics, ranging from the potential dangers of a growing, centralized media landscape to the rise of artificial intelligence and its impact on society. Smith recounts his experiences running VICE, highlighting the challenges of scaling a successful business and his ultimate decision to return to a smaller, independent model. He also shares his thoughts on the state of American politics and the influence of money in media and politics. The conversation then transitions to a broader exploration of human consciousness and the mysteries of the universe, touching on topics such as extraterrestrial life and the nature of reality.

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