Joe interviews Josh Dubin, the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice. The conversation centers on the challenges of criminal justice reform, particularly when individuals who have been exonerated or resentenced commit new crimes. Dubin discusses the public backlash he received after one of his clients, Sheldon Johnson, was released from prison and then later committed murder. The discussion also touches on the complex issue of criminal justice reform and the need for mental health support for formerly incarcerated individuals. The podcast also explores broader political and societal issues, such as the manipulation of the legal system for political gain, the lack of media objectivity, and the pervasiveness of misinformation in society. Ultimately, the podcast aims to shed light on the intricacies of criminal justice reform, the importance of advocating for those who are wrongly incarcerated, and the need to approach these issues with nuance and compassion.

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