Joe interviews Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin, hosts of the podcast "Triggernometry". The conversation primarily focuses on their political views and social commentary, exploring a range of topics such as free speech, social media, politics, immigration, and the current state of American culture. They discuss how these issues are often framed within a tribalistic mindset, where individuals are quick to label and demonize those who hold differing opinions. The conversation also touches on the increasing influence of technology and AI, and how these developments may impact society and the future of work. Additionally, they examine the current state of combat sports, particularly boxing and UFC, expressing their views on the direction of these sports and their excitement for upcoming fights.

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