In this heartfelt and candid episode, Tina celebrates her and Mat’s 20th wedding anniversary by inviting him on the podcast for the very first time! Together, they answer listener questions about life, marriage, parenting, business, and everything in between, offering a unique behind-the-scenes look at their unconventional journey as partners, parents, and business collaborators.

From juggling young kids with demanding businesses, to overcoming stereotypes and supporting each other's dreams, Tina and Mat open up about the real challenges and joys of building both a family and an empire together.

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Key Topics Covered

• Parenting & Business Juggle:
  Tina and Mat reflect on the toughest seasons when the kids were young, acknowledging how much easier life gets as children grow up. They share advice about hiring help and leveraging time during demanding phases.

• Working & Living Together:
  The couple discuss the reality of being in close proximity day after day and how they’ve learned to give each other space (different offices are key!), respect each other's routines, and focus on shared goals.

• Communication in Uncertain Times:
  With some real talk on the early, uncertain years of Tina’s business, they recount the importance of over-communicating, trusting each other, and knowing when to discuss—and when to let go.

• Breaking Stereotypes:
  Mat opens up about the societal perceptions and family opinions about working for his wife, and how he’s dealt with the traditional “breadwinner” expectations.

• Happiness & Marriage Longevity:
  Both admit marriage isn’t always easy and share how actively working on their relationship, communicating openly, and allowing each other to grow have been crucial for their happiness.

• Their Kids’ Perspective:
  Tina and Mat chat about how their roles have influenced their sons, focusing on valuing individuality over stereotypes and showing that success and happiness look different for everyone.

• Adventure Stories:
  Get a laugh (and a cringe!) as they recount the weirdest things they’ve ever eaten while traveling through Mongolia and China.

As Tina and Mat’s stories show, building a business and a life together comes with its own challenges, laughter, and lessons—but it’s the ongoing commitment to communication, respect, and shared adventure that keeps it all working. From parenting to partnership, they remind us that success isn’t about fitting into stereotypes, but about creating a life that feels true to you.

Where to find Tina:

Her Empire Builder: https://www.herempirebuilder.com/

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