When you’ve built something from the ground up, what happens when you’re no longer part of it? In this deeply honest and wide-ranging episode, Kate is joined by Norwood Fisher, founding member and bassist of the iconic genre-defying band Fishbone, for a conversation about legacy, betrayal, and reinvention.

This episode isn’t just about music. Norwood opens up about his recent and unexpected departure from Fishbone after more than four decades, sharing the emotional and spiritual journey that followed. He speaks candidly about grief, creative conflict, and the pain of being pushed out of something you helped build—and how he’s alchemized that pain into purpose.

Norwood’s story is a testament to resilience, self-inquiry, and the power of transformation. This is a rare glimpse into the mind of a cultural pioneer who’s still growing, still healing, and still creating. If you’ve ever felt unmoored by change or unsure how to move forward after loss, this episode is a powerful reminder that sometimes the end of one chapter is the start of something even more meaningful.

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MORE ABOUT THIS EPISODE:

(00:00:00 ) From the Rehearsal Room to the World Stage

(00:12:39 ) When Your Heroes Become Your Peers

(00:22:17 ) When Brotherhood Breaks: The End of an Era

(00:40:45 ) Letting Go of Anger, Holding On to Purpose

(00:58:07 ) How to Heal, Let Go & Start a New Chapter

Resources:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/woodywoodstraw/?hl=en

• X: https://x.com/woodywoodstraw

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JohnNorwoodFisher/

• No Treble Blog: “Norwood Fisher: ‘I Didn’t Quit Fishbone’”

• Fishbone Website: https://fishbone.net/

• Fishbone on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDJIMcwP7bH8Ya4vRjd3bcA

• Fishbone on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2X3pNc13eRGofTO9Yt3sMi

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