In this episode, Stacy and Sena have one of the most chaotically hilarious interviews with the one and only Céline Tshika, interrogating what it truly means to be a Bad African. In between self-deprecatingly poking fun at themselves for the things they're good at being bad at, they unpacked the messy, layered, and oh-so-nuanced reality of Blackness and Africanness. 

From growing up in SA in a Congolese household to navigating microaggressions in the arts, Céline takes us through the complexities of identity, heritage, and pushing back against respectability politics. 

She gets into the colonial history of the Congo and how it’s playing out in today’s instability in the region. Between the serious and the unserious, there are many thought-provoking perspectives and laugh-out-loud moments.  This episode is a journey through interrogating race, privilege, and the joy of embracing every shade of who you are.

Chapters

00.00 - 06:00 "Good at being bad", red nails

06:00 - 18:25 A Congolese African woman in SA, Colonisation 

18:25 - 23:00 The career pivot

23:11 - 37:30 Being black in a white private school, dating

37:30 - 39:10 Learning about white validation 

39:10 - 48:36 Public reactions to satirical comedy

48:40 - 52:20 When white women jump on the "Karen" bandwagon

52:20 - 57:35 Playing a game "how an African parent would react"

57:35 - 59:32 Wrap up 

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