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Busting Myths and Dropping Truths About B2B Industrial Sales with Derek Baer

Busting Myths and Dropping Truths About B2B Industrial Sales with Derek Baer

Update: 2025-08-27
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B2B sales in 2025 is confusing.


On the one hand, it's just the same as it's been for years. We need to connect with buyers, build trust, and guide them through decisions.


On the other hand, it's a completely different beast.


That's why Derek Baer is in the studio this week, for a free-wheeling, no-holes-barred discussion and debate on sales topics.


It's time to get comfortable being uncomfortable!


We talk:



  • Whether to track "quotes" as a metric

  • Whether anyone can be trained to sell successfully

  • Accelerators (kickers) in sales compensation

  • Whether we should hire for technical/industry knowledge, and more.


And the conversation is blunt. "Tell them to f$%k!ng apply" Derek says at one point!


Summary


Derek Baer brings a new format to the studio this week, debating and discussing B2B sales topics. He and Ed disagree about various aspects of sales, and agree about others. Topics include:



  • the importance of tracking quotes

  • the compatibility of salespeople with complex B2B sales

  • qualities that make a great sales rep

  • role of sales decks - significance of accelerators in compensation plans

  • how to manage underperformers and disrupters within sales teams.


The conversation emphasizes the need for continuous improvement and investment in sales skills, drawing parallels between sales and other professional pursuits.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Sales Metrics and Tracking Quotes

09:04 The Compatibility of Salespeople in Complex B2B Sales

15:56 Defining Traits of a Great Sales Rep

23:24 The Role of Pitch Decks in Sales

27:29 Understanding Sales Accelerators and Compensation Plans

29:53 Explaining Sales Compensation to the Team

32:42 Managing Underperformers in Sales Teams

35:45 The Impact of Team Dynamics on Performance

41:19 Investing in Sales Skills for Long-Term Success
 
Resources

Check out Derek's Sales Training website. 






LinkedIn: Derek Baer and Ed Marsh


Twitter: Ed Marsh


Instagram: Derek Baer and Ed Marsh


YouTube: @EdMarsh


Show Transcript 


 
Insanity is Doing the Same Things and Expecting Different Results
 
By Einstein's definition, most industrial sales teams are insane. Buyers, their behavior, and AI have changed so much, and yet most teams are operating much the way they have for years.
 
Derek's straight talk deliveres an important message - so does Ed's recent paper on changes in industrial sales and marketing.
 

Read more from Ed's recent paper on these critical changes.

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Busting Myths and Dropping Truths About B2B Industrial Sales with Derek Baer

Busting Myths and Dropping Truths About B2B Industrial Sales with Derek Baer

Ed Marsh Consulting