This is Rob's second appearance on the C44 Show. Almost three years ago to the day, he and Marla Estes joined me in my apartment studio in Ashland Oregon to talk about the work they were doing to Bridge The Divide between the Left and the Right. Now abandoning that futile effort, Rob is concentrating his efforts on teaching critical thinking to high school seniors and giving his time to the non-profit organization FAIR Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism (fairforall.org). Now in his sixties and retired, Rob has dedicated his life to empowering others to think for themselves. Also on the show is podcaster and video blogger John Saboe.