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Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz

Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz

Update: 2025-09-19
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How to Lead Change (Without Losing Your Team) — with Dr. Hans Finzel

Dr. Hans Finzel returns to Change Agent Leadership to unpack the big idea behind his book Change Is Like a Slinky—why change is messy, unpredictable, and essential if you want your organization to survive and thrive. We talk practical leadership moves: building a guiding coalition, over-communicating the “why,” converting adversaries into advocates, and aligning your board, leaders, and teams so momentum sticks.

 

Guest: Dr. Hans Finzel — author, speaker, former president of WorldVenture, and president of HD Leaders. Author of 11 books including the international bestseller The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make and Change Is Like a Slinky.

 

What you’ll learn

·       Why leaders must accept the need for change even when the old way “still works”

·       How to anticipate allies and adversaries (and why the middle 70% are your leverage)

·       Why communication ×10 is the lifeblood of any change effort

·       How to align your board, leadership team, and staff so the “wheels” roll straight

·       The role of trust, vulnerability, and encouragement in sustaining momentum

·       How to turn critics into advocates through presence, listening, and clarity

 

▶️    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Gq0o8o5h2lU

 

▶️   Schedule a free discovery call: https://jonathanhankin.com/contact 

▶️   Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Change Agent Leadership

01:16 Hans Finzel's Leadership Journey

02:26 The Necessity of Change in Leadership

04:23 Communicating Change Effectively

07:06 Change is Like a Slinky

12:37 Phases of Change

18:09 Accepting the Need for Change

23:09 Anticipating Adversaries and Allies

24:26 Understanding Leadership Miscommunication

25:44 Rebuilding Trust Through Humble Communication

27:38 The Importance of Over-Communicating

28:03 Focusing on the Right Group for Change

35:06 Aligning Your Team for Success

39:13 The Role of Encouragement and Trust

44:11 Challenges in Organizational Change

50:16 Advice for Emerging Leaders

 

Resources mentioned

·       Hans Finzel — https://hansfinzel.com

·       Change Is Like a Slinky by Hans Finzel 

·       The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make by Hans Finzel 

·       Buy-In by John P. Kotter & Lorne A. Whitehead 

·       The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni 

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Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz

Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz

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