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Conservatives want to burn flags too; plus, the power of a singing POTUS

Conservatives want to burn flags too; plus, the power of a singing POTUS

Update: 2024-06-141
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The episode begins with a discussion about the use of flags as symbols of identity and protest, focusing on the recent controversy surrounding an upside-down American flag flown by Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and the Colorado Republican Party's call to burn Pride flags. The conversation then shifts to the trend of depicting presidents in musicals, with a focus on the portrayals of Thomas Jefferson in "1776" and Teddy Roosevelt in "Newsies." The episode explores how these portrayals, often romanticized or exaggerated, reflect our cultural understanding of leadership and the complexities of American history. The episode concludes with a discussion about the use of American history as intellectual property in musicals and the potential for satire to challenge traditional narratives.

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00:00:00
Flags as Symbols of Identity and Protest

This Chapter explores the evolving meanings of flags and how they are used to express political and social identities. The discussion focuses on the recent controversy surrounding an upside-down American flag flown by Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and the Colorado Republican Party's call to burn Pride flags. The chapter examines the historical and contemporary uses of flags as symbols of distress, protest, and national pride, highlighting the complexities of their meaning in a polarized society.

00:19:59
Singing Presidents and Broadway Musicals

This Chapter examines the trend of depicting presidents in musicals, with a focus on the portrayals of Thomas Jefferson in "1776" and Teddy Roosevelt in "Newsies." The episode explores how these portrayals, often romanticized or exaggerated, reflect our cultural understanding of leadership and the complexities of American history. The chapter also discusses the use of American history as intellectual property in musicals and the potential for satire to challenge traditional narratives.

Keywords

Flag Day


Flag Day is a holiday celebrated on June 14th in the United States to commemorate the adoption of the American flag by the Continental Congress in 1777. It is a day to honor the flag and its significance as a symbol of the nation's history, values, and unity.

Pride Flag


The Pride flag is a symbol of LGBTQ+ pride and activism. It was originally designed by Gilbert Baker in 1978 and has evolved over time to include different colors and stripes representing various aspects of the LGBTQ+ community, such as black and brown stripes for racial inclusion and pastel blue, pink, and white stripes for transgender inclusion. The Pride flag is a powerful symbol of visibility, acceptance, and celebration of LGBTQ+ identities.

Upside-Down American Flag


An upside-down American flag is a traditional symbol of distress, often used to signal danger or a call for help. It has been used historically by ships in distress and has been adopted by various groups as a symbol of protest or dissent. In recent years, the upside-down American flag has been used by some to express their opposition to political policies or events, such as the January 6th insurrection.

Hamilton


Hamilton is a critically acclaimed musical that tells the story of Alexander Hamilton, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. The musical is known for its innovative use of hip-hop and R&B music, its diverse cast, and its exploration of themes of ambition, power, and the American Dream. Hamilton has been praised for its historical accuracy and its ability to make history accessible to a wider audience.

1776


1776 is a musical that tells the story of the American Revolution, focusing on the events leading up to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The musical features a cast of historical figures, including Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin, and explores themes of revolution, freedom, and the birth of a nation.

Newsies


Newsies is a musical based on the real-life newsboy strike of 1899 in New York City. The musical tells the story of a group of young newsboys who fight for better working conditions and fair wages. Newsies is known for its energetic dance numbers and its portrayal of the struggles of working-class people.

Thomas Jefferson


Thomas Jefferson was one of the Founding Fathers of the United States and the third president of the country. He is known for his role in drafting the Declaration of Independence and for his contributions to the development of the United States. Jefferson was also a slave owner, and his legacy is complex and controversial.

Teddy Roosevelt


Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th president of the United States. He is known for his progressive policies, his conservation efforts, and his role in the Panama Canal project. Roosevelt was also a strong advocate for American power and influence on the world stage.

Sally Hemings


Sally Hemings was an enslaved woman who was owned by Thomas Jefferson. She was the half-sister of Jefferson's wife, Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson. There is strong evidence that Jefferson had a sexual relationship with Hemings and fathered six of her children. The relationship between Jefferson and Hemings is a controversial aspect of American history, raising questions about race, power, and the legacy of slavery.

Q&A

  • What are some of the ways that flags are used as symbols of identity and protest?

    Flags can be used to express national pride, political affiliation, social movements, and personal beliefs. They can also be used as symbols of distress, protest, or dissent. For example, an upside-down American flag is a traditional symbol of distress, while the Pride flag is a symbol of LGBTQ+ pride and activism.

  • How do the portrayals of presidents in musicals reflect our cultural understanding of leadership?

    The portrayals of presidents in musicals often romanticize or exaggerate their personalities and actions, reflecting our cultural fascination with power and the complexities of American history. These portrayals can also reveal our anxieties about leadership and the role of the presidency in society.

  • What are some of the arguments for and against using American history as intellectual property in musicals?

    Some argue that using American history as intellectual property in musicals can make history more accessible and engaging for a wider audience. Others argue that this practice can trivialize or distort historical events and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. The debate raises questions about the role of art in shaping our understanding of the past and the responsibility of artists to portray history accurately and ethically.

  • How does the trend of depicting presidents in musicals relate to the broader cultural context?

    The trend of depicting presidents in musicals reflects our ongoing fascination with power, celebrity, and the American Dream. It also reflects our desire to understand and interpret the complexities of American history and the role of leadership in shaping our nation's identity.

  • What are some of the challenges and opportunities of using satire to challenge traditional narratives in musicals?

    Satire can be a powerful tool for challenging traditional narratives and exposing hypocrisy. However, it can also be controversial and risky, as it can offend or alienate audiences. The effectiveness of satire depends on the artist's skill and the audience's willingness to engage with challenging ideas.

Show Notes

Flags have been making a lot of headlines lately, and it's not because today is National Flag Day. The upside down flag that was flown outside of Justice Samuel Alito's house after January 6th is back in the headlines again. Plus the Colorado Republican Party has been making news for their post on X to "burn all the #pride flags this June." Host Brittany Luse is joined by Nick Capodice and Hannah McCarthy - hosts of NHPR's Civics 101 - to get into why both liberals and conservatives get so riled up by a piece of fabric.

Then, in honor of the Tony Awards this weekend, Brittany sits down with critic and playwright Sarah Jae Leiber. They talk about why there are so many presidents in American musical theater, the bizarreness of some of these portrayals and what the real politicians pulling the strings get out of it.

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Conservatives want to burn flags too; plus, the power of a singing POTUS

Conservatives want to burn flags too; plus, the power of a singing POTUS