If you’re feeling exhausted and unmotivated, clinical psychologist and author Dr Diana Hill suggests that you may be channelling your energy in the wrong direction. Many of us feel that we do too much, and yet get nowhere - this is because we are misdirecting the precious resource of our energy. 

In this episode, Andrew and Diana discuss:

• The high-achiever at work whose patterns backfire in relationships.


• Running away from discomfort and how this keeps us stuck. 


• “Genius energy” - our unique, inherent strengths that show up in our talents and gifts. 


• How to reclaim and better direct your energy

Diana Hill, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist and a leading expert on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Drawing from the most current psychological research and contemplative wisdom, Diana bridges science with real-life practices to help people grow fulfilling and impactful lives. She is the author of four books including I Know I Should Exercise, But..., The Self-Compassion Daily Journal, ACT Daily Journal, and her latest, Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most (September 2025). She's the host of the Wise Effort Podcast and her insights have been featured by NPR, Wall Street Journal, and Psychology Today.

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This week supporters will hear:

• Wise effort at work. 


• Three things Diana Hill knows to be true. 


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Learn more about Diana Hill:

• Read her book: Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most.


• Listen to her podcast: The Wise Effort Show


• Visit her website: www.drdianahill.com


• Follow her on social media: @drdianahill on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. 


• InsightTimer: https://insighttimer.com/drdianahill 

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