Are narcissists capable of love? Is it possible for them to achieve emotional transformation through therapy? And what does it mean to be the partner of a narcissist? Jungian psychoanalyst and friend of the podcast DR SUSAN SCHWARTZ joins Andrew this week to discuss her new book, An Analytical Exploration of Love and Narcissism: The Tragedy of Isolation and Intimacy. 

Drawing on Jungian concepts and the myth of Narcissus and Echo, Susan explains:

• How we misunderstand narcissism


• The creative energy of the narcissist


• The ways narcissists can be deeply vulnerable


• How narcissists can learn to be emotionally intimate.

Dr Susan Schwartz is a Jungian analyst who trained in Switzerland and lives in the USA. She teaches in numerous Jungian programs, workshops, and lectures in the USA and worldwide. She is also a clinical psychologist and member of the International Association of Analytical Psychology. Her other books include:The Absent Father Effect on Daughters, A Jungian Exploration of the Puella Archetype  and Imposter Syndrome and The ‘As-If’ Personality in Analytical Psychology.

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• Why are narcissists so compelling?


• Three Things Susan Schwartz knows to be true. 


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Follow Up

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things 

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Listen to Andrew’s previous interviews with Dr Susan Schwartz: Daughters and Fathers, and Imposter Syndrome. 

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