Energy is here in the present, and it's always with us.”

-Joseph Frost















In this episode, the host, Ana Melikian, dives into a transformative conversation with Joseph (Joe) Frost, a global speaker, thinker, and entrepreneur, about the intriguing concept of energy management versus time management. Joe shares his personal journey of transforming productivity by focusing on harnessing energy rather than adhering strictly to the constraints of time.







Ana and Joe explore how facing serious life challenges, like cancer, can shift our perspectives on what's truly important. Joe introduces Bruce Schneider's concept of “Energy Leadership” and the seven levels of energy, highlighting the detrimental effects of catabolic energy and the empowering nature of anabolic energy.















A significant part of their discussion revolves around managing and optimizing personal energy, especially during conflicts, and how leadership in today's decentralized work environment can benefit from an energy-focused approach. Joe also addresses the importance of aligning personal and organizational core values to navigate through what he calls “core value conundrums.”







Joe emphasizes the importance of creating a multiverse of visions, relying on core values to guide the way. Frost's experience with decentralized leadership models demonstrates how embracing an energy-centric mindset can lead to better outcomes in both personal and professional realms.







Let's dive in!















This week on The Mindset Zone:









* 01:01 Introducing Joe Frost







* 01:17 Joe’s Take on Energy Management vs. Time Management







* 02:16 Joe’s Personal Experience with Cancer and Time Perception







* 03:02 Shifting from Time to Energy Focus







* 04:14 Levels of Energy Leadership







* 06:40 Practicing Energy Awareness and Curiosity







* 10:00 Addressing Energy Triggers and Catalysts







* 11:11 Exploring the Seven Levels of Energy Leadership







* 13:33 The Role of Core Values in Navigating the Multiverse of Visions







* 15:17 Aligning Personal and Organizational Core Values







* 17:35 The Impact of Energy-Centric Leadership in Decentralized Models







* 20:51 Leveraging Energy in Productivity and Future Work







* 25:49 Applying an Energy Perspective in Personal and Professional Life







* 26:14 How to Learn More About Joe Frost

































Meet Our Guest:







Joseph (Joe) Frost is an entrepreneur, speaker, and thought leader, pioneering the future of work through fractional and decentralized leadership. As the co-founder of yorCMO, the first franchise business in this space, Joseph helps business owners gain clarity and drive growth with fractional CMOs.







Beyond yorCMO, Joseph founded the Fractional Professionals Association, a community for executives embracing the evolving work landscape.







His diverse career spans from launching a lawn care business in high school to founding companies in various industries, teaching entrepreneurship, and creating a documentary on the seasons of entrepreneurship.







Joe’s innovative thinking and ability to turn unconventional ideas into impactful strategies make him a sought...