Host Kevin Oakley joins Julie Jarnagin and Jackie Lipinski to unpack the newest AI experiments, marketing shifts, and growth mindsets shaping 2026 and beyond. 

From Meta’s surreal new playground to the delicate relationship between builder breakthroughs and removing “limiting factors,” this episode looks at how curiosity and clarity drive progress, even when tech or timelines get in the way. 

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Key Topics Discussed

• Does the future belong to fewer, bigger players?
• Love the growth leaps, but remember to value every step
• Fever dream frontiers - is Meta wooing creators or consumers?
• Weighing the privacy costs of the “customized everything” digital dream

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