Ep. 292 - BoBart's Bromance!
Update: 2024-12-09
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Cliff Barackman and Matt Pruitt speak with our beloved Bobo and Bart Cutino about their 20 years of 'squatching and sportsballin' together! Bart offers updates about his recent field projects and experiences while Bobo yells at the TV during a football game. The four also discuss Bobo's hotel etiquette, the BFRO's penchant for creating friendships, and various sports betting strategies.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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And now your hosts.
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Cliff Bergman and James Bobo Fey.
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Hey, everybody.
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It's Cliff, and you are listening to Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
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Bobo, how are you doing today?
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Oh, that's right.
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Bobo's not quite here yet.
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He's running late, but we do have a Bobo substitute.
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How are you doing today, Bobo substitute?
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Hey, how's it going?
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That's right, friends.
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It is Bart Coutino, who's going to be our guest on today.
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The lovely and talented Bart Coutino.
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Things are going lovely.
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Bart, how are you doing, sir?
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Doing great.
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Doing great.
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Just got up here last night.
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Do our little annual trip.
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20 years, friends.
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So now we're looking forward to it.
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It's been great.
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So you've been doing the Bobo Bart trip for 20 years now?
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Yeah, I think it's about about 20 years.
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Oh my God.
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So that means you guys must have started when you were four.
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Is that right?
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Just about it.
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I don't feel it.
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That's for sure.
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So you just got there last night.
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Do you stay at Bobo's house, sir?
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Do you get a hotel or do you stay in the truck?
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Or what do you do?
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Yeah.
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You know, this one this weekend we usually don't stay out.
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We might a couple nights, but we usually just do some intermittent use his house as the base camp, if you will, and watch our football and eat, do everything else and head out periodically.
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Nice.
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And how was Thanksgiving for you?
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Because it must have been a big to-do at the Coutino House.
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Oh, thank you.
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Yeah, no.
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It was awesome.
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We did mom and dad's.
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I think over Christmas Eve, so they still got it and 35.
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So big family, you know, they got some of them are actually spread out in other areas.
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We'd be 100.
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Pretty easy.
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These big Italian families, but no, it was a blast.
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Fantastic.
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Did you do the cooking?
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No.
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Actually, they did.
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You know, it's never been my type of food.
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I've never been into the things.
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I'm kind of getting into it a little bit lately and Kim does a great job.
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But, yeah, I'll do Christmas Eve.
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I'll do all the Italian stuff, the seafood stuff, but not big on Thanksgiving.
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Do you guys have a good one?
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Oh, yeah, it was good.
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It was good.
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I went to the woods in the morning.
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That was rad.
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I found an interesting print.
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I cast it.
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I got the toes pretty good.
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The rest of the planner surface didn't turn out very well, though.
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I mean, because it wasn't really even there.
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I didn't even try that hard.
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So I made it damn and I made sure that the plaster would stay in the right place.
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So I got a really nice impression of the toes.
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I'm not exactly sure which individual it is, but I suspect it might be the male that is rarely found in the area because it is very, very wide.
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It is probably about, probably seven or eight inches wide.
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And I think that's just bigger than the 14 inch and the 12 inch would be.
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So, and the impression that was there was about 15 inches.
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So maybe it's the 14 inch one, but I think it's the male.
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I think we've now got two or three prints of the male in the area.
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And the footprint seems to be about 15, 15 and a half inches long.
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So yeah, anyway, so I got a cast on my birthday, which is rad and then came home by 130, started preparing the turkey.
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I enjoy cooking turkeys.
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So I did that.
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And then Melissa and I just kind of hung out and ate some turkey and all that fixing sort of stuff, killed a bottle of wine and watched a fellowship with the ring.
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So.
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That's great.
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And who is that a random on that morning?
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Oh, the track?
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Yeah.
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Oh, it was just random.
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It was just random.
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I'm in the woods one to three days a week at this moment, you know?
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So I always hit the same couple areas because I mean, it would be, I don't know, man, I wish there were more of me and I had more time to do it.
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But I try to hit the same one or two, three different spots every single time I go, which is every single week.
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Because if I find something like I found it yesterday, but I didn't find it the week before, well, then I have a time frame in which the creature walk through, you know, so I think that's important.
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And then if I had more time, which I didn't yesterday, I try to hit a new area that I don't think anyone has gone into it.
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I'm trying new roads and new locations and, you know, driving 30 minutes away and, you know, hitting that sort of thing, you know, just trying to use my brain a bit to try to wrap my head around what these things are doing.
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So that's the plan, you know, go to the normal spots to see if they've been there the last week.
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And if we don't find anything, then go to a new spot to see, you know, just a, just a poke to see what's in there because it's never no, man, unless, unless you go, he just won't know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that was all of the day, of course.
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And then that I've been working, basically, you know, I've been piecing together a video, great video.
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I should say to you.
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I don't say so myself.
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I think it's a pretty great video.
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Oh, yeah.
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Check it out.
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Yeah.
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I'll send it to you.
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It's a museum member video, of course.
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And then it looks like a, we're losing Scott, one of my employees.
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So he just covers weekends right now.
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So I'm going to have to be covered in weekends for a while until we get him replaced.
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That's super excited about that, but at the same time, it's good to be in the shop.
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I don't, I don't mind that I have to go in.
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I just, you know, like, let's like always, I don't like to happen to do things on people's schedules.
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Not even my own.
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That's the ownership part.
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Hopefully you get them, get them replaced.
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You're pretty quick.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think so.
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I don't know if he's going to spend, but is he not on the air with us yet?
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He had a, he had to go to, he's just, he, and as we're talking, he just rolled in about, about five minutes ago, he'll be back up here in just a few,
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he said, so he's been around for five minutes and he's not on, okay, great.
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Now that Bobo has coverage, he's even more late than, than usual.
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Of course, of course.
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So if you've been up to in the field, Bart, we haven't caught up in, uh, a while.
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We caught up a little bit, uh, after the book came out, but I'd love to hear what you've been up to.
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Yeah.
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You know, pretty exciting stuff, you know, I figured now at, uh, at 50, I'm going for it, you know, we all have limited capacity or battery.
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I mean, I'm, I'm never going to stop until it's done, but I just cited, you know what?
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I got to step it up and, uh, I think my wife so much, 10% of the year, I'm actually a Washington State resident, but they're quite a bit and, uh, got my gang up there.
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So we put together the Sasquatch Surveillance project and, uh, sort of with, uh, Kirk Brandenberg who's long time, Washington researcher and long time friend and then you guys know,
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uh, Nathaniel Bronis and, uh, sharp set of a gun, I mean, just brilliant tack and, uh, stuff I'm not good at, he's just phenomenal at and it's great and we've got,
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uh, we went ahead and brought in, uh, Chris and Rebecca Spencer, they're just recently married and two great friends and, you know, what Chris has done body, oh, it's unbelievable,
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it's cataloging library.
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So we're kind of pulling everything to resources together and, uh, we've got about, uh, eight thermal cameras out there right now, what Nathaniel did essentially in a nutshell,
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rewired them so they're like trail cameras, motion detection, they can go retrieve the SD cards every couple weeks.
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So, uh, no one, as far as our knowledge, no one's really tried this yet.
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Uh, there was a lot of trial and error.
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They've got, uh, I'd say we're about maybe three to four months in, so far, no jackpot, but, uh, a lot of, uh, cool stuff, a lot of great animals that, you know, during nocturnal hours and you're seeing things that no one ever gets to visually see because the circumstances are either there's no light,
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there's no nothing, you're just, you know, in the wild.
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So it's a really cool stuff.
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So does it start recording whenever there's like a differential in the pixelization, like when anything hot shows up no matter how distant?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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Cause then you're not limited by the, uh, a passive IR sensor, like you have on a trail camera that's only really seeing like 30 feet.
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And so you, you're, you're basically watching as far as the thermal eye can see.
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That's amazing.
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And, and no, I don't think anyone's ever done that because it must have taken some modifications to make the unit capable of doing something like that.
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So that's super cool.
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I don't know how the hell you do.
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I mean, that is for me, I mean, for me, it's my weakest point.
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I think God for him and just brilliant.
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Like I said, there's a lot of trial and everybody figured it out.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, becoming seamless at this point, um, he's able to get the units together much cheaper as well.
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So we've got about eight FLIR Bosons out there right now.
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I'm going to probably double that here in the near.
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You said it's called the FLIR Boson.
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Yeah, they're FLIR Bosons.
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Um, they're, you know, I'm used to now.
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It's funny.
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I was a FLIR guy back in the day.
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And then, uh, the last, I don't know, 10 years.
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I've got four pulsars now.
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I mean, that's my, uh, that's my favorite.
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So they were kind of catching me up with these units.
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I think they came out after, you know, I had my old age series and all of that.
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But yeah, there's 645 12 res.
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Um, yeah.
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No, I mean, they're, they're phenomenal.
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So they keep them stationary, keep them the bare boxes.
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Apparently, he's tested, doesn't give off a MF.
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Um, I don't know how he does that.
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But, uh, apparently that's the case.
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And, you know, I think we've, we've already had though a couple of incidences where, you know, one bare found it, you know, one, at one point.
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But, uh, I think it's just, you know, matter of time, we're in for the long game.
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I'm not falling around if anything.
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I'm going to double it, triple it.
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It's just going to get more intense from here.
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It's, you know, we know they're out there.
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And you guys always know that's always been my, my personal goal.
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He's always been passionate pursuit.
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I want it done.
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I'm not here to play Woods and Wildman and, uh, the sooner, the better.
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So are these like handheld units that are just mounted in bare boxes?
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No, they're the, uh, they're, they're stationary units.
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They're like, um, like the old pathfinders.
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Yeah, they're like pat.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I'll send you a couple pictures of the rig the setup.
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Uh, the, he's got even the internal, the bones of it, you know, how he's, how he's kind of rigged it underneath.
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And then also to, he's, he's putting them in and, uh, it's like an artist job, you know, he's got them in like, you know, big logs and snags.
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And it's just covered.
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You just barely see that, you know, little window screen at all.
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That's all that's, you know, everything else is completely concealed.
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And, you know, it's, it's, sort of what picks up my art doesn't give it off like night vision.
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And there shouldn't be technically, as far as we know any deterrents, but I think we're going to have to do some manipulations here probably quarterly, you know, we'll play around and, uh, we have to just do some other things,
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you know, create subterfuse or whatever, but, you know, they walk by, you know, we got them.
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So, that's very cool.
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Now, if you had any, uh, encounters, any experiences of the last few years, since we did a deep dive and caught up, because you know, you were one of the early guests on the podcast.
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And we talked about, uh, you know, your thermal sightings and your thermal footage and those things.
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But that was probably 2019 or maybe early 2020 somewhere there about within the first year of us having the podcast.
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So anything that's happened since then, the audience and myself would probably love to hear about.
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Yeah, you know, I had, um, not a ton.
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Um, I did have in 21.
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I had a very brief visual.
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I was completely caught with my pants down.
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It was on one of my barkfoot expeditions in, uh, the summer in, uh, Washington state, the Southern Olympics.
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And, uh, first night getting there and it was brief, but I saw enough of it, you know, as, as you guys know, having used these things, Cliff, you know, but all of us,
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it's, we've used it so much we could discriminate what we see.
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I mean, that's one of the key is seeing into that thermal world, you know, and, uh, it was one of those instances where I got there that night.
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And I, uh, even just went for a one hour hike just to get a lay of the land.
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I'd never been there.
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And then just took a break, took the third woman to rock.
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You guys know, I never take the damn thing off my eye and, uh, you know, talking with everyone visiting and, and Jonathan Brown actually was there and you said, uh,
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he said, you know, something's walking up the hill and if I had a nickel for every time someone said that, right, it turns out to be nothing, but everyone kind of ran up and looked and there was something running and I had my thermal on,
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I'm looking and I'm just in shock.
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I've someone, I thought I was a person running around the front of the truck that was back down the road.
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There was no one else passed there.
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And I just, who's running?
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It was so quick.
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Who's running front of the truck?
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And I look in as soon as that thing turned.
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It, it was like, you see, you know, the, it was, what the size was, it was only like maybe five, eleven, two, twenty five.
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But that, but that shoulders and head, that definitive, uh, no doubt and cut through so quick went ripped up a bend through the trees.
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There was a little window through the trees.
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That's where I really, really knew it was because I could see from like, um, you know, it's stepping through with like the running through.
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I should say with the side of the top of the head and the little tree branch bouncing as it just ran up hill and by the time I got it recording, it's me trying to, you know, compensate and catch it,
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get ahead of it going up hill.
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So I missed it by a second, but totally got caught when my pants down.
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It was, I mean, it was awesome.
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We had, we had a lot of other stuff happened during the expedition, but then you could see where, you know, it divvied that foot and just ripped in through that.
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I mean, I'd never seen one run or move like that.
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And it was, it was just like, wow, it was just another kind of reminder.
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We are where we are.
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Why?
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Um, so that was cool.
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A couple of times I had bow and I think we got surrounded by knocks one time since I've talked to you.
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And then I had a long expedition coming back from Washington last, well, September, uh, going into early October.
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Uh, didn't know it was kind of an eventful.
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We hit a couple different places in Washington, had the Barfoot expedition with the Browns.
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And, uh, coming back in NorCal, I stopped.
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We actually got, got Cliff for one night.
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I didn't even know he's going to be in town.
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We hadn't, uh, had a chance to communicate yet before I usually see him on the way up.
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And, uh, Bo joined us two for a couple hours, but that's, you know, second night I was there as I was with Leiterman.
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And, uh, Cliff was there.
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Cliff had just gone out, maybe half hour before.
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And I had grabbed, I had a little piphany when I was in Washington state.
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Uh, we were over by, uh, Rimrock Lake.
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And I'm in the riverbed.
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And I happen to clack those rocks together.
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And they're more of those colonial graphite like those hollow.
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And it, it, those rocks versus the regular sediment rocks that you're going to get the forest amplifies like three to four times.
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It's like they're on a speaker as far as like clacking.
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So I took these rocks with me.
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The other thing that was interesting is even if they're cold to the touch, the rocks stay warm when you look at them through a thermal.
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And I'm thinking back towards my footage of what type of rocks maybe were thrown in it.
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And anyways, I take these rocks back.
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I clacked them about a half hour after Cliff and I don't know what down.
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And about a minute and a half later, not even got a full like 29-second sequence of clack, clack, clack, clack, clack, clack,
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clack, clack, clack.
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Like very almost rhythmic.
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It was jaw-dropping.
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I, I couldn't believe it.
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And especially where we were, where there's a history there.
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Cliff and Boat had stuff happen before here years ago.
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But, uh, it was, uh, it was, it was epic.
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I mean, just totally took me by surprise.
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And it was something too.
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I was mimicking it to Cliff when he got up.
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And I don't know if it's something where it almost felt like the cadence was like, oh, you could do that.
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Let me show you what I could do.
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Or it's something that maybe means something, had him fooled for a second.
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And it's something we can exploit and maybe buy a check-in, you know, if you will.
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So anyways, that was, that was pretty cool.
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But other than that, pretty quiet, uh, you know, we've recorded our stuff, you know, sounds here and there.
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But, um, you know, nothing to get excited about.
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I'm trying to, I want to get the ball to move down field.
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Of course, very cool.
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Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Boat Boat.
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We'll be right back after these messages.
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It seems like most of your research time has been spent up in Washington the last couple of years on,
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or Northern California to Washington, you know, during the summer.
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I know you take a long two week or three week trip up there every year.
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And of course, you do this thing this weekend with Boat Bo.
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Have you been spending time locally in the central California area?
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Because you live in Monterey, of course, and you have the, you know, the big Surrey to South of you and their Santa Cruz just north of you.
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And the Sierra is just east of you.
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Have you done anything out there in the last few years?
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Yeah, no great question.
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Um, I've actually been still been doing the Sierra is intermittently.
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So I'll do two sections.
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I went back to you, uh, the Sierra site in August to film with Eli for upcoming show coming up here in the early part of the year.
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But I've been spending a lot of time in the central, uh, Sierra's, you know, we're strawberry, tween, hard area over there with, uh, Tony Ruon, uh, one of my field partners,
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great guy, retired guy.
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He had saw one in, uh, the engineer, um, saw one in, uh, Sikamor Canyon in Arizona, I think about 10 years ago.
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And that's really what, you know, got him into it.
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And, uh, great guy.
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He's also, uh, recently, he was the first guy, I think, to go back in a long time as far as bigfooters, uh, to this Sierra sound site.
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He kind of figured it out through, you know, pictures that were left and whatnot.
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And, uh, so he made it all the way to the site, took all the comparison pictures.
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It's actually awesome.
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I kind of went underneath the radar.
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He's, he's a big information share type of guy.
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I mean, just awesome guy.
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So I'm going to be spending a lot more time there.
00:18:30
You know, it's only three and a half, four hours.
00:18:32
It's convenient.
00:18:33
Um, it'd be a, it'd be a great ideal place to get footage.
00:18:36
I mean, because you do have, you know, a little better tree separation.
00:18:41
I mean, it's here is just ideal, you know, if you can get them there.
00:18:44
So anyways, yeah, we're going to, you know, June, July and August do a lot of weekends over there and God bless my wife.
00:18:51
I mean, she knows.
00:18:53
I mean, that's, this is my last goal, you know, life is to, uh, you know, God, I'm once it wasn't good enough.
00:18:59
But I want to just have that one time do, uh, uh, five minutes to slam the ball in the goal line.
00:19:05
And, and then the death start happening in life as we get older, right?
00:19:08
I mean, the rollercoaster of life, but this is, uh, I want to make a big push and get try to get this done.
00:19:13
Well, you did say a couple of minutes ago and I'm quoting you, you're going to do this quote until it's done.
00:19:18
Do you really think you're going to stop?
00:19:20
Oh, you mean post.
00:19:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:23
Like, like, say Darby and those guys get it done this year, you know, then it's a done deal period.
00:19:28
No question anymore.
00:19:29
The professionals take over the anthropologist, the primatologists, they're in there doing stuff.
00:19:34
All of us are kind of kicked to the curve and we're just watching the discovery channel, you know, documentaries on them now, you know, um, are you still going to or you said you're going to do it till it's done?
00:19:44
Does that mean you stop doing it?
00:19:46
That's a great question.
00:19:47
Actually, no, absolutely not.
00:19:48
I would keep doing it.
00:19:49
But I think what would change is just that underlying, or say, guys, that's my use you guys know, I mean, that's my big intangible is, is the attention, you know,
00:20:00
and, and it's, uh, I think it would, it's, it's always because I've seen, when I've had my visuals, I, I saw how easily I could have missed them and probably have.
00:20:10
And so that price of attention, it would probably come down.
00:20:13
I'd actually be a little more relaxed and then, you know, probably enjoyable.
00:20:17
The pressure's off where I fill out there.
00:20:20
It's not a business to me.
00:20:21
I've always separated business from my passion.
00:20:24
But it's, it is a business in the sense that, um, I know how hard it is to see these things.
00:20:29
I've seen them and I don't know if I'll ever see one again.
00:20:32
I'm going to give myself every opportunity.
00:20:35
But, um, I think posts, there would just be that, you know, a little more of a, uh, I could let loose a little bit.
00:20:42
You know what I mean?
00:20:44
Is that constantly feeling like I got to be aware?
00:20:47
I kind of wonder if it's going to be even legal to do what we do.
00:20:50
Calling and knocking on trees and stuff like that, you know, whatever, that nighttime stuff, if he's, if we still do that, like, is that even going to be legal or is that going to be considered harassment of wildlife that are possible in dangerous species,
00:21:01
you know?
00:21:02
That would be, well, we got, we got, um, Mr.
00:21:04
Bobo joining us here.
00:21:05
But yeah, no, it's a great question.
00:21:07
I've thought about that before.
00:21:08
I think you're absolutely right.
00:21:10
It would be, it would be your ask, but there would be no way there.
00:21:12
Well, yeah, this is kind of an interesting question.
00:21:14
There's a lot, the, a lot of unknowns out there besides just the animals themselves.
00:21:19
Like what will happen?
00:21:20
Like what will it look like, um, post recognition, I think, you know?
00:21:24
And what do you do about just, it's a continent-wide distribution.
00:21:28
It's not like it's just these, you know, immediate geographical, you know, little pockets.
00:21:34
I mean, it's like, where do you, you know, I think that's always better than when you set aside.
00:21:39
Habitat, I mean, how does that all work?
00:21:41
I mean, yeah, I think you, it would start with wherever the discovery is confirmed.
00:21:46
And it will move in the minimal necessary increments to allow for that discovery, you know?
00:21:52
That's a debate I've had with a few of my Sasquatch researcher friends who think that, oh, well, if you prove that they exist, you'll get nationwide recognition.
00:22:00
It's like, I don't think so.
00:22:02
I think if you, if a specimen were collected in Florida, they're not going to preserve habitat and enact legislation in Washington, you know?
00:22:10
I think there would still be a host of challenges and fun things ahead that citizen science could achieve that would be whether it's detecting populations via EDNA.
00:22:20
Once you have a fully sequenced genome from a specimen, okay, well, now we're going to look for this signature in the cascades and the Sierra's and the Rockies and the Olympics and on and on and on.
00:22:29
And then in terms of what you're trying to do with getting footage, like, well, just proving that they exist via DNA, people would still be desperate to know what they look like and how they move and how they interact with each other or the environment.
00:22:41
And so all those things will still take many decades to accomplish and achieve.
00:22:47
And, you know, it might become illegal to harass them, but it won't become illegal to be in their habitat with a camera or a thermal, you know?
00:22:54
Right.
00:22:55
And all that stuff, you make a great point.
00:22:57
I mean, all that stuff would flesh out in real time, you know, over time.
00:23:02
I just hope I can have a part of it all.
00:23:03
I mean, I don't really, I mean, discovery, whatever.
00:23:05
I know they're real.
00:23:06
I don't care about discovery, so to speak, or recognition, necessarily.
00:23:09
But I just want to learn about them.
00:23:11
And I see a recognition of the species as the door that needs to open for us to learn more.
00:23:16
Obviously, because you know, I can only get so far doing what I'm doing here.
00:23:20
But, you know, once we have the genome and once we know these things are out there, everybody knows they're out there, it's not a secret anymore.
00:23:27
Basically, I still want to go out and collect footprint stuff.
00:23:30
And I want to get some EDNA from footprint.
00:23:32
I want to learn about the big foods that we have here in my neck of the woods.
00:23:36
Those are the ones I care about.
00:23:38
You know, nothing, nothing against anyone's big foods.
00:23:40
Wherever you are in Virginia or Florida or wherever else.
00:23:43
But man, the ones that are here are the ones that I've been dealing with for a couple years.
00:23:47
Now, and those are the ones I want to know the most about.
00:23:48
It's pretty small-minded cliff.
00:23:51
I know.
00:23:51
Well, you know me, man.
00:23:52
For such a big head, I've got a pretty small mind.
00:23:54
I care about all the squashes.
00:23:59
Yeah.
00:23:59
Well, it's only so many hours in the day, man.
00:24:05
Only so many miles left on my vehicle.
00:24:06
You'll always have a spot now.
00:24:08
I mean, your brother is, you know, a protégé.
00:24:11
Like, he's the top scientist, I mean, you're always being there.
00:24:14
You contribute to the live.
00:24:15
You're still going to contribute a lot, so you'll be calling.
00:24:18
I mean, they're not going to call me.
00:24:20
They'll call you.
00:24:21
Well, hopefully with the institution behind me, the NABC, you know, I can continue being a small part of the team that's putting this puzzle together.
00:24:30
It seems like a good way to spend the last 30 years of my life.
00:24:33
If I have even that long, so we'll see.
00:24:35
I just hope I would recognize my contributions as an inventor of the South Squatch stop dance.
00:24:42
That's you.
00:24:43
Yeah, a great graduation.
00:24:46
Were you a pigeon yet?
00:24:47
No, the pigeons weren't well in hard I was, but we weren't a real gang until '83.
00:24:52
He was a proto-pigeon.
00:24:55
A proto-pigeon.
00:24:56
So I wasn't a pigeon yet, but I was an egg and spirit.
00:25:01
You're waiting to hatch.
00:25:01
Yeah, unknowingly.
00:25:05
I never can do that.
00:25:07
Wait, so, Bobo, can you roll your Rs like if you're speaking Spanish or something like that?
00:25:16
Can you roll your Rs?
00:25:17
Yeah, Karita, Srita.
00:25:18
Can you do that?
00:25:20
Bar can't do it.
00:25:23
Oh, you don't have the gene.
00:25:26
No.
00:25:27
Well, Bob's welcome to the podcast.
00:25:29
By the way, how are you doing, my friend?
00:25:31
Anything good going on, Bobo?
00:25:32
You bit of the woods or anything?
00:25:33
Anything cool going on?
00:25:34
I went out with Bart last night.
00:25:35
I got out a couple of times last week.
00:25:37
I got out, yeah, once over this week, nothing going on, but I've been feeling the vibe like something's going to happen again.
00:25:43
Are we up in the Red Woods or are you out of bluff or where were you?
00:25:46
Just saw the redwoods on the coast.
00:25:48
Bluffs probably snowed in right now, isn't it?
00:25:50
We're going to check it out.
00:25:52
Yeah, you might as well.
00:25:53
Yeah, we're going to go see how far we can get.
00:25:56
Those other guys, Doug and Todd had some stuff happen again down lower, like a few miles up the road, so we're going to go check that out.
00:26:05
I guess Todd's out there this weekend.
00:26:06
He went out there last night.
00:26:08
So he's out there.
00:26:09
So we're going to check about probably tomorrow tonight or something.
00:26:12
Oh, cool.
00:26:13
Very good.
00:26:15
Yeah, Bart was saying it's 20 years or 20 years in on this now.
00:26:19
Yeah.
00:26:20
Wow, that's nuts.
00:26:22
I've only made one bet so far this whole weekend.
00:26:25
He's doing good.
00:26:27
That's the other part about this big weekend with you guys.
00:26:29
Sure, you guys go out big footing and hang out and have bro time and stuff, but it's also all about football, isn't it?
00:26:34
Yep, absolutely.
00:26:35
I love it.
00:26:36
It's always been.
00:26:38
That's always been one of my other just crutches.
00:26:41
I just love, I love decompressing on the Sundays and watching football.
00:26:47
I love watching Bart bet.
00:26:48
I'm going to yell and scream at the TV.
00:26:50
It makes you feel not so alone.
00:26:53
Yeah.
00:26:54
He puts action on every single game.
00:26:57
He's got action on some part of it.
00:26:58
So it's like every game, he's going, oh, man, like, like, you know, the whales of lament to the victorious joyous, joyous, yells of victory.
00:27:07
Bart, we had a, we had a previous guest on and I'll spare them the embarrassment, but I'll tell you off the record who it was.
00:27:13
And when we, when we started the podcast, we hit record and bobo was like, hey, I got a lot of money on this game so I can't turn it off.
00:27:20
And so the whole time the guest was talking every once in a while in the background, you hear bobo go, ooh.
00:27:27
So I left them all in there because they're, they're just so hilarious, dude.
00:27:35
They're so funny to hear like him talking in bobo going, oh, god, you know, yeah, for me, for the footage, you know,
00:27:45
I love it.
00:27:46
Yeah, they put on SC.
00:27:50
Yeah, the chip screens will be out in full force.
00:27:53
Oh my gosh.
00:27:54
So yeah, so it's a, we have Bart, bobo, Cliff, Matt, and several football games going on all during the same podcasts.
00:28:02
Sorry, sorry.
00:28:03
That's all right.
00:28:04
It's a small price to pay to have it a podcast right now, you know, and I think our listeners will probably agree with that.
00:28:08
It's at least at least he got us.
00:28:10
Do you guys better get to each other?
00:28:12
Oh, yeah.
00:28:13
It's a good question.
00:28:14
We will tomorrow.
00:28:16
Yeah, we'll do it.
00:28:17
Yeah, tomorrow.
00:28:18
I was going to say that I was just an HMP's, ladies, funeral or memorials is now.
00:28:24
It was, it was one of the biggest ones I ever saw.
00:28:27
There was thousand people there probably or something like that.
00:28:30
The whole community of southern, like Furndale, Furn 14 area.
00:28:33
There's, there's both like a lot of old rancher families and stuff, old ports, all Portuguese.
00:28:38
Here's at the Portuguese hall, like overflowing with the streets.
00:28:41
They had to do the big slideshow of music and then they're putting like Whitney Houston.
00:28:46
I'll always love you.
00:28:48
Whatever.
00:28:49
And then then all some of the music stops.
00:28:51
And it cuts to a voice, but Pat let her left for Amy, like one of the last ones where he sang her a song, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:59
And like all these people, like, grimacing.
00:29:02
He's old, like eight-year-old ladies with blue, blue fonts, like grimacing.
00:29:05
Like, witness, he goes, what is that?
00:29:07
I'm like, that's Patrick singing.
00:29:09
She goes, and she just shook her head.
00:29:10
Like, I just looked around, watched all these people, like, just in bewildering what happened.
00:29:17
Like this beautiful, lovely voice.
00:29:19
Also, there's powdered screeching metal vocals.
00:29:21
He's wearing his best poison shirt.
00:29:25
He made it to a black Dickie's colored shirt and sewed out how the lady sewed on his poison and Cinderella patches on the front.
00:29:34
So he's wearing his good shirt.
00:29:35
His good shirt.
00:29:37
Yeah.
00:29:38
Well, you know, if there's one thing that could be said about Heavy Metal Pat, is he's exactly the kind of guy that would put the fun into funeral.
00:29:45
What episode was he in?
00:29:46
For the listeners.
00:29:47
Well, it's like the art with Bart.
00:29:49
Well, it's Backyard.
00:29:50
So if you're not familiar with Heavy Metal Pat, go look that episode up and with Bart.
00:29:55
Yeah, the Finding Bigfoot episode, of course.
00:29:57
So it's not a podcast episode.
00:29:59
Oh, that was a 14, 13, 14, 13.
00:30:02
No, it was after that.
00:30:04
No, it was 14.
00:30:05
Because that's where that's the episode that we found Sochi on, I believe.
00:30:09
Okay.
00:30:10
So yeah, we had Fireball.
00:30:11
We had Fireball, Bart and HMP in one episode.
00:30:14
That was when we got kicked out of the hotel.
00:30:17
Yeah.
00:30:18
Well, I got kicked out of the hotel for having Sochi in the room.
00:30:22
I got booted too for too much noise.
00:30:24
Well, you were heckling the car dealers.
00:30:26
They deserve this.
00:30:27
Right.
00:30:27
We were at the casino hotel.
00:30:29
Yeah, but I was on fire though.
00:30:30
Everyone else was laughing just except for them.
00:30:33
They should have laughed at us good times.
00:30:36
Yeah, I'm good times.
00:30:38
Well, Bobo, you are a perfectly lovely house guest, but I have heard tales about your hotel etiquette.
00:30:43
People, certain hotel management was trying to align my character.
00:30:49
But I was always a very gracious guest.
00:30:52
Yeah, and he always stayed one step ahead as far as alignment.
00:30:56
Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
00:31:01
We'll be right back after these messages.
00:31:04
You still loving your job?
00:31:10
Uh, it's all right.
00:31:12
Yeah, I mean, it's way worse.
00:31:13
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:31:14
It's a job.
00:31:15
I mean, but at the same time, for a job, it's pretty good, right?
00:31:18
Yeah.
00:31:19
I mean, I like it.
00:31:20
And you have a Christmas break coming up too.
00:31:22
Yeah.
00:31:23
Yeah.
00:31:23
I'm going to go down and see the folks.
00:31:25
I'm going to take the time off to make sure I get up there when Pruitt comes out to the January.
00:31:29
Oh, really?
00:31:31
For Squatch Fest, huh?
00:31:32
Yeah.
00:31:33
I'm going to do an appearance of the appearance that you're placed to Cliff.
00:31:37
Of course.
00:31:37
Of course.
00:31:38
Always welcome.
00:31:39
Well, as you guys are, are you both speaking?
00:31:41
Well, I'm going for the first time this year, but I'll be up there.
00:31:44
Both Pat and I are speaking at it.
00:31:45
Awesome.
00:31:46
Again, who else is a Ken Gerhard or somebody?
00:31:49
I think so.
00:31:50
Yeah, Ken, Kathy strain is speaking.
00:31:53
Amy Boo will be speaking there.
00:31:56
Shane Corson.
00:31:57
Shane.
00:31:58
Yep.
00:31:58
Good line.
00:31:59
It'll be fun.
00:32:00
Pruitt, how long are you going for?
00:32:01
I'll be at Cliff's Museum on Thursday and then doing the event Friday through Sunday and then coming home Monday.
00:32:09
Okay.
00:32:09
Bart, I don't think we've seen each other in person since the North Cal trip in 2010.
00:32:15
So we are overdue.
00:32:16
That's for sure.
00:32:17
Earlier this year was the first one of those I'd ever been to.
00:32:20
And it was a very well run event.
00:32:22
It was awesome.
00:32:23
Had a blast out there.
00:32:24
And it's all so many great friends and all the attendees were great.
00:32:27
It was a real treat to be there.
00:32:30
So really looking forward to this one.
00:32:32
Yeah, it's going to be clever.
00:32:33
I went to that one.
00:32:35
Whatever the first year, I went to the first, I think I went to the first two.
00:32:38
Then went to the first two.
00:32:39
And I thought it was awesome.
00:32:40
But well, if you come out there, like we should just, because my table is usually like next to where near Cliff's, we just put our tables together and just have one big big foot and beyond booth.
00:32:49
I'm not going to be sitting there.
00:32:51
It sounds like work.
00:32:53
We got a thing to sell.
00:32:55
You could sell selfies and autographs.
00:32:58
Yes, I still got some headshots actually left over from doing the conferences.
00:33:02
I was at McCay's bookstore in Knoxville yesterday, and I was telling Emily like, yeah, the last time I was here, Bobo found a single copy of the Finding Bigfoot book and bought it used and then signed that one copy and headed his merch table at the Vint Galenburg.
00:33:17
He's a businessman.
00:33:19
Yep, it's $23 on that deal.
00:33:21
It was a good deal.
00:33:23
Yep, that was a great start.
00:33:25
I'm a genius.
00:33:26
Do you guys have specific plans?
00:33:29
Anything you're going to try to accomplish during these next few nights of outing and celebrating 20 years of squatching?
00:33:34
Yeah, I'm kind of interested in your specific techniques of what you're doing out there in the woods, you know?
00:33:41
The usual.
00:33:42
Barton is rock, nox, last night we just sat.
00:33:45
Which are that same spot and just we sit and then when we have like a 20% success rate or something, 25%, I mean, in these 20% you know, there's times of a year's, but then it's yeah.
00:33:55
And I've gotten stuck in between, so I'm hoping that last time I was out there was not last time, but one of the last times I was out there was with our buddy from Pennsylvania that came out,
00:34:06
and we left, and then when he went and got a record of the next morning, there were nox, there was nox, they came up around the, you heard the nox, come close to what the recorder was, and then you didn't hear him walk up or anything,
00:34:16
but you heard the last knock real close to the recorder and that was it, but so we they gave us no indication of being there, but they were there, and we didn't know until we left.
00:34:24
Like, you know, several, I think it was 20 minutes after we left, we started hearing the nox on the recorder.
00:34:30
So they're around to announce themselves all the time, you know?
00:34:34
So we're hoping to catch and go in, the old growth sections, we're hoping to get them to go in between trees with those big gaps.
00:34:40
Yeah, I got like a set that I tripod the thermal.
00:34:43
What I've been doing different now this days, I used to, I always had the one around my neck, manually, that I basically sleep with that thing, but then I tripod the others, you know, overnight.
00:34:52
Well, now I'm on tripodting them, you know, behind me on trails, whatever, just coming back, retrieving them, pulling the footage, how you could do it on the on the stream vision app now.
00:35:02
And it's interesting, just a lot more animals, you know, like you could just have nothing, you know, no animals present that you see or,
00:35:13
you know, hear or feels like, you know, take off for an hour film and sure enough, you know, something comes through, a bobcat runs through or whatever, you know, a deer comes through.
00:35:22
So I would do more of that and we're kind of facing uphill in the tree gaps.
00:35:26
Yeah, that type of thing we're doing a little bit differently and we'll probably crew, he'll do probably do some driving and I'll be doing a lot of therming.
00:35:35
I mean, we're not going, you know, we might go a couple of overnight, we'll see, we're going to play by air.
00:35:40
There we are.
00:35:41
Oh, I'm in, just music, I'm music to my ears.
00:35:45
Okay.
00:35:45
Crew just come back tomorrow, so we'll head out.
00:35:48
Look at those nights.
00:35:51
Should lay around our underwear, yell and scream to the TV over the weekend and go out and get out there overnight.
00:35:58
And he's got his Starlink mobile satellite.
00:36:00
So we got the app, we got his pizza oven, all that stuff.
00:36:04
So we're setting up a little pop up stuff and have satellite TV and he's squatting during, you know, just in between, I mean, you can set up and watch football and squat at the same time.
00:36:16
Yeah, that's rough in it.
00:36:17
I was going to say, if you had the Starlink thing, you could just like pipe the football to like one handheld unit and hold it in one eye and then have the thermal up to the other eye and just keep walking around.
00:36:27
So cool.
00:36:30
Jack goggles on the other eye's different feed.
00:36:33
Exactly.
00:36:34
I love the multitasking.
00:36:36
I love it.
00:36:37
Just being up here.
00:36:37
Like this one's more of like, you know, we just do and are things we love to do together.
00:36:41
But you always mix in the swatching, but you know, we've had a lot of good things happen over the years on on these trips.
00:36:48
This time of year, especially, you know, the coast.
00:36:50
So since we're talking about a 20 year anniversary, did you guys meet on a BFRO expedition or first one?
00:36:58
Yeah.
00:36:58
Oh, four.
00:36:59
And then I met Cliff.
00:37:01
It was exactly a year later.
00:37:03
I met Cliff with Bo.
00:37:04
It was out with Bo on the same area.
00:37:06
Yeah, I talk about it.
00:37:07
I think I just lucked out, you know, once getting those invisible handcuffs off at 29 and jumping in and going on the first one.
00:37:14
I mean, Jesus Christ, first person, I I talked to you literally with Bob Gimlin.
00:37:19
It was just like, yeah, I know it's pretty cool.
00:37:21
His cousin, you know, his cousin, he had a piece on it and a 9 Bill tucked in his waistband, just in case you never know.
00:37:30
Yeah, Jason came.
00:37:30
We lived together at Fresno Speed.
00:37:32
No, it was great.
00:37:33
He had a blast.
00:37:34
That was a good time.
00:37:35
He was wearing like a tracksuit like, look like John Gotti or something.
00:37:39
So what were your first impressions of Bobo?
00:37:44
I'm sure the listeners want to know.
00:37:46
Bobo is very beloved and celebrated here.
00:37:48
All to your big G God, Bart.
00:37:49
No, I actually thought he was a hilarious love the guy right away.
00:37:56
The honest with you.
00:37:58
I can't even joke about it.
00:38:00
I mean, it was, it was great.
00:38:02
And he and God bless him.
00:38:04
He, I was, I was afraid of my own shadow at night.
00:38:08
The first time getting out.
00:38:09
And I was like, you know what?
00:38:11
No, if I'm going to do this, that's the first thing that's got to be shed.
00:38:14
And that was, that was the person who helped get that standard shed it very quickly.
00:38:19
Now it's, you know, been featured the night.
00:38:22
I wouldn't have any of the way, but that he was instrumental in that, a lot of other things.
00:38:27
But no, great, great first impression.
00:38:29
That is hilarious.
00:38:31
My cousin loved him too.
00:38:33
But yeah, we stayed in touch.
00:38:36
And then I think you came down to Santa Cruz, I think.
00:38:39
And then, you know, right off the bat, I mean, just we all kind of became friend.
00:38:44
Moneymaker was down visiting Monterey within a couple of months.
00:38:48
And then there was a lot of connection I had to just being back home, you know, Ron Morehead.
00:38:53
Like he's, you know, Ronda, I think got married in our restaurant, you know, starting factory back in the day.
00:39:00
John Freides is still great friend.
00:39:02
He worked in Monterey County here.
00:39:03
He knew, you know, knew my family.
00:39:05
So it's just like I felt comfortable right away, you know, with everybody.
00:39:09
And then, you know, a lot of years going out together.
00:39:12
It was a lot of special time.
00:39:13
Sounds like you won the Bigfoot lottery, you know, because there are, it was probably a little different, you know, I know it was at least for me 20 something years ago, where it was such a, it was a much smaller pool.
00:39:25
But I venture a gas that they're still probably the same percentage of like people who don't conduct themselves very well in the subject.
00:39:31
You know, I mean, so the, the odds of meeting people that you hit it off with, that you would want to hang out with anyway, those are pretty low.
00:39:38
So that's, you definitely got a winning ticket there.
00:39:41
Yeah, I definitely, definitely did.
00:39:44
It was, it was kind of, it was kind of something meant to be, it felt like, you know, and you know, and I had to learn I was very raw, you know, so I had to, I really have learned last 20 years,
00:39:54
like a sponge.
00:39:54
I've just learned everything backwards.
00:39:56
I, you know, I fished a lot, but I was never a hunter, never, you know, so I've learned everything I can for everyone I can, at least know enough to be dangerous in, in all areas.
00:40:06
And what I love about our field and all the friendships too is just everyone that we specialize in, you know, you gotta track it, you know, boom, I got Cliff immediately, I got audio, I've got Chris Spencer, and I got David Ellis immediately.
00:40:17
You know what I mean?
00:40:18
It's, everyone's got their niche.
00:40:20
Mine, mine is the thermal and never taken like thing off my eye, but everyone's got something to contribute that's kind of their wheelhouse per se.
00:40:29
I love that.
00:40:30
And friendships and relying on each other.
00:40:33
It's great.
00:40:34
Oh, absolutely.
00:40:35
Yeah, Cliff and I were having a conversation the other day about just the current state of Sasquatchery.
00:40:40
And I was kind of mentioning that, you know, I think a lot of people get into this and they, they're pretty convinced that they're fairly dedicated, because I think people look at the subject and they see a lot of bad actors and they think like,
00:40:52
oh, well, these people are faking, being dedicated.
00:40:54
And it's like, no, no, I think a lot of these people think they are, but they just haven't run up into tough times yet, or frustrations or all that.
00:41:02
And so the only true measure of dedication is time.
00:41:06
And there's such a small handful of people that I could think of that I know who have been involved as long as you guys have, you know, 20 plus years, 25, 30 years,
00:41:16
you know, in Cliff's case and Bubbles case, but to see those people, and the great thing about that cohort of people is they're all friends.
00:41:24
You know, everyone who's been around for that long, you know, all know and like and respect each other and work well together.
00:41:31
And so there's really a lot to be said for that of like, you know, whenever people say, oh, just so and so, are they serious?
00:41:39
Are they dedicated?
00:41:39
Do they really believe?
00:41:40
It's like, well, they've been at it.
00:41:42
Hard core for 20 something years.
00:41:44
Do the math, you know, of course.
00:41:46
Right.
00:41:46
Yeah, I wasn't until the internet that I've met anyone like me.
00:41:49
You know, I don't know, I don't know what it was.
00:41:51
I knew one guy was really, you know, it.
00:41:53
But other than him, I didn't really break.
00:41:56
I feel like one of them once.
00:41:59
Yeah, then also, and I was like, well, I'm making friends and big, but I had like 20, I was already doing it for like 20 years.
00:42:05
Yeah.
00:42:06
And then it started me, you know, you know, maybe 15 years ago, and then my first other big flitters.
00:42:10
And I was just like, this is right.
00:42:12
And like, well, I can come with or like just as into a design.
00:42:15
I want to go out as much as I want to.
00:42:16
I was like, this is awesome.
00:42:18
Oh, absolutely.
00:42:19
Yeah, that's, we've all met through the BFR, essentially, and I, you know, I could list 20, 30 something people in my life, you know, even including my wife that I met through BFR related endeavor.
00:42:31
So in a way, BFR was kind of like SquatchersOnly.com or something.
00:42:35
Well, Matt Moneymaker is truly a matchmaker.
00:42:39
Yeah.
00:42:39
He's the one that told me that if I ever do have children, I have him to think.
00:42:45
Matt Matchmaker.
00:42:49
Match Moneymaker.
00:42:50
Yep.
00:42:51
What's better?
00:42:52
Match Moneymaker or Matt Matchmaker?
00:42:55
I like match Moneymaker.
00:42:57
That'll be, you know, that'll be whoever, whoever answers that first to the podcast reply is wins the contest about to get the free message from me and clip.
00:43:04
There you go.
00:43:06
Yeah.
00:43:07
Bobo will leave you a voicemail.
00:43:09
Not like leave it on your voice, but he'll create an outgoing voicemail so that when people call you, they will encounter Bobo.
00:43:18
Or send a voice text to a person of your choice of a heckle.
00:43:21
That would be nice.
00:43:22
Yeah.
00:43:24
And so for the second episode in a row now, I'll put Bobo's cameo in the show notes.
00:43:28
So, man, that's great.
00:43:29
Nice.
00:43:31
If you guys want to personalize the message from the bobs, click the link in the show notes everybody.
00:43:37
Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo will be right back after these messages.
00:43:44
Do you remember in the early days when Bobo's signal would be wonky and so he would drive up the mountain and use his phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot and have his laptop on the steering wheel to do the podcast?
00:44:01
Yeah, and that was somehow better.
00:44:03
He was listenable.
00:44:06
I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, which episodes they were, but there was more than one where he'd be like, hold on, just getting parked up here.
00:44:13
I know you sent some podcasts from various parking lots.
00:44:18
Logging roads, parking lots, out of the road.
00:44:22
You're one of a kind, Bobo.
00:44:24
Thank you.
00:44:26
I'm thankful there's only one of you.
00:44:28
I want one another bit.
00:44:34
So, you guys don't share that.
00:44:36
Bobo, your team's the 49ers, right?
00:44:38
Yeah.
00:44:39
And what about you, Bart?
00:44:41
You probably have some obscure team that you love that you'll die for, right?
00:44:46
You know me too well, but you're a diehard Miami Dolphins and then Toronto Blue Jays and Baseball.
00:44:52
Yeah, that's what I was thinking because you're a team player because I know about the Toronto Blue Jays stuff.
00:44:58
And it's like, well, my brother was in the base.
00:45:01
Why not?
00:45:02
I've known some people who are in the Baseball.
00:45:04
Not one of them has ever said, Oh, Blue Jays are my jam, but you have and you've stuck with it forever, man.
00:45:09
He's the only guy that's a Blue Jays Dolphins, South A.
00:45:13
Sharks and Golden State Warriors family hardcore.
00:45:15
Are they the only one?
00:45:16
Oh, the Warriors.
00:45:17
I don't really know about it.
00:45:19
I mean, I'm an NBA.
00:45:19
I watch it.
00:45:20
I'll bet I'll have a playoffs a little bit, but I just never never worth it.
00:45:25
Yeah, I mean, I am, but it's I don't follow them like the other three.
00:45:29
Yeah.
00:45:35
No, I don't know anything, Bart.
00:45:36
As you know, I'm completely ignorant about mostly things you guys are talking about.
00:45:40
Have the Blue Jays ever won the pennant?
00:45:43
Yeah, they won the World Series back to back when I was just out of high school.
00:45:47
It was awesome.
00:45:48
93, 92, 93, and it was funny because back home, you know, especially a Giants, a lot of Ace fans too, obviously, but it was I remember one of them was like a Tuesday night.
00:46:00
And I'm out just celebrating and no one gave me.
00:46:02
They're all happy.
00:46:03
It wasn't the same as when they all win and everyone's just, yeah, you know, but it was no, it was great.
00:46:10
I was glad to see them win.
00:46:11
I saw, you know, the Dolphins won the Super Bowl a month before I was born and I've not won again.
00:46:16
See, they've lost a few.
00:46:18
I've seen, but my wife, we says with my teams because there's been a lot of middleing and losing here and there, but I've never never the bride always the bridesmaid or whatever is room saying to tease me on my teams,
00:46:33
but at least, you know, I'm a loyal son of a gun.
00:46:35
Indeed you are.
00:46:36
A team player to the end.
00:46:37
So the next couple nights, how many more nights do you have out there?
00:46:43
Possibly.
00:46:43
I might head back.
00:46:45
I might head back Wednesdays.
00:46:47
Probably three or four, maybe four.
00:46:49
Yeah, you're going to go into Wednesday morning.
00:46:52
Yeah, I'm looking to plan it.
00:46:53
I did not Wednesday morning.
00:46:54
So I've got four nights and you'll be home that night.
00:46:58
Yeah, be on that night.
00:46:59
It's about six and a half getting back home.
00:47:03
The song, oh, I last night, I before night, before 2004, I'd never taken the 101 pet north past San Francisco.
00:47:12
And then since then, it's like 60, 70 times.
00:47:15
All right.
00:47:16
Well, very good, Ben.
00:47:17
Yeah, so I might be down there to go visit with a mic rug for a weekend before he closes up shop there and see if we can work something out with the museum situation.
00:47:26
Keep everybody posted on that as things come up.
00:47:29
Let me know I'll run up and meet you.
00:47:32
It's only right there.
00:47:33
Oh, yeah.
00:47:34
Yeah, for sure.
00:47:35
I have a handful of friends in that area and I'm certain I would reach out to at least several of them and you're one of them for sure.
00:47:41
So hopefully I'll see you in a couple of weeks here.
00:47:44
Yeah, be great.
00:47:44
Well, then why don't we close down shop here?
00:47:47
I mean, there's been kind of a fun hangout.
00:47:48
We're not not a ton of bigfoot stuff where I was spoken about, but you know what?
00:47:51
And the thing about big footing is that it has a way of taking over your life and every single thing you do is bigfoot.
00:47:57
So for me personally, it's kind of nice to just hang out with a couple of friends and shoot the poop for a little while and talk about a couple other things besides bigfoot, even though when I am with Bart or Bobo or Matt,
00:48:07
certainly this ass-quatch thing always, always comes up.
00:48:10
It's just such a big part of all of our lives.
00:48:13
So thanks, Bart, for coming on and hanging out and thanks, Bobo's for coming on and hanging out your own podcast.
00:48:19
They don't want to be glad to know that none of those making a go-along stand right now against USC.
00:48:24
It's 35-21.
00:48:26
So we're looking pretty good, baby.
00:48:28
They're going to win the game.
00:48:29
Why don't you let me cover at least?
00:48:31
Cover the points.
00:48:32
Let's do this.
00:48:33
Also be fun because we're recording right now, obviously.
00:48:36
So by the time this airs, everybody will know how these games turned out.
00:48:39
I want both, y'all want you both to make predictions on the biggest games today.
00:48:43
Better than wins.
00:48:44
I see just scored right now.
00:48:46
Yeah, I see just for this guy.
00:48:48
All right, we're going to get a couple games.
00:48:50
I'm going to win.
00:48:51
Are you talking point spread or are we talking just the game?
00:48:54
I know that you're talking a cliff.
00:48:56
Like, I know what a point spread is.
00:48:57
Who's going to win?
00:48:58
Who's going to win?
00:48:59
I like, I like Iowa State.
00:49:01
Yeah, I'm going to Iowa State too.
00:49:03
I didn't even know they had a team.
00:49:04
Who what else?
00:49:05
I got known as losing tomorrow.
00:49:09
Pretty.
00:49:09
You handle it.
00:49:10
You in LV by 18.
00:49:12
They've got to win by 18 or more.
00:49:13
You in LV.
00:49:14
All right.
00:49:15
And Boba, you're betting against your own team.
00:49:17
Yeah, because that way I win either way.
00:49:19
If I lose the bet, we won the game.
00:49:21
So I'm happy if I may lose.
00:49:23
And I won money that takes the sting out.
00:49:26
That's what I did.
00:49:27
Thanks for dolphins and I won.
00:49:28
I think they're asking it.
00:49:29
I knew it.
00:49:30
I think we're going to lose anyways.
00:49:31
Maybe I'll have to put in a, if you or someone you know has a gambling addiction, please click the link in this doughnuts.
00:49:38
Oh, I totally do.
00:49:40
It's just been under control for 40 years.
00:49:44
The bar will have literally like, how much does she have right now?
00:49:48
Over 100.
00:49:49
No, no, no, not like that.
00:49:51
But see, I look at it.
00:49:53
I look at it very differently.
00:49:55
For me, it's not about the money.
00:49:57
Like, to me, it's, I set aside a chunk of money, the beginning of the year.
00:50:01
If I lose it, I'm done for the year.
00:50:02
If not, that's my play money.
00:50:04
So it's already gone.
00:50:05
And I bet big, but I mean, that's for me, it's not about the money.
00:50:09
It's, it's the, I don't lie to myself.
00:50:11
It's the escape.
00:50:12
It's decompressing.
00:50:13
It's a different kind of fun stress, you know, but love it.
00:50:16
And these are words from my financial advisor.
00:50:19
Thank you.
00:50:19
Thank you.
00:50:20
Yeah.
00:50:20
So good.
00:50:23
Yeah, I don't advise that clip.
00:50:26
All right, Bob's good to study here, man.
00:50:31
Yeah.
00:50:31
All right, folks.
00:50:32
Well, thanks to the great Barca Tina for joining us.
00:50:35
Thank you.
00:50:36
Yeah.
00:50:37
And Matt, thanks for joining us also in clip, as always.
00:50:40
All right, folks, thanks for tuning in.
00:50:42
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00:50:44
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