In this episode, Steve Yates sits down with Luke de Pulford, co-founder and Executive Director of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (iPAC). From his early inspiration by William Wilberforce to launching an international coalition of lawmakers, Luke shares his remarkable journey in human rights, modern slavery advocacy, and China policy.

They discuss:
- The role of faith and conviction in confronting authoritarian regimes
- The origins and global impact of iPAC
- The challenges of building consensus across political lines on China
- The CCP’s growing aggression, transnational repression, and its global consequences
- The controversy around the Chinese embassy expansion in London
- Why reciprocity in international relations with China is no longer optional

This is a deep dive into the intersection of values, strategy, and global security. A must-listen for anyone interested in geopolitics, human rights, and the future of China policy.

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