In this hard-hitting episode of The China Desk, host Steve Yates sits down with tech entrepreneur and policy strategist Rod Martin for a wide-ranging conversation on U.S.-China relations. From PayPal's early disruption to the dangers of authoritarian AI, Martin traces how America’s economic leverage—and spiritual clarity—can counter the CCP’s ambitions. They break down China’s demographic collapse, fragile real estate economy, and the strategic importance of Trump-era tariffs and rare earth independence. This isn’t just about trade. It’s about liberty, reciprocity, and the moral battle for the 21st century.