On this episode of The China Desk Podcast, host Steve Yates speaks with Andrew Phelan—Australian entrepreneur and writer—about the rise and transformation of China from Deng Xiaoping’s reforms to Xi Jinping’s wolf warrior diplomacy. Phelan shares his personal experiences living and working in China, explains how offshoring hollowed out Western industry, and warns of Beijing’s strategy to “Delete America” while reshaping global rules. The discussion covers U.S.-China decoupling, Australia’s pushback over COVID origins, transnational repression, and the urgent need for democracies to defend sovereignty.

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