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Dr. Mary sits down with Sue Hitzmann—An internationally recognized educator in neurofascial science, manual therapist, exercise physiologist, and a New York Times Best Seller.

They dive into how fascia is more than just “connective tissue”—it's a sensory and structural system that holds the impact of stress, trauma, and unprocessed emotions. 

They also talk about grief: Sue shares what she learned after the loss of her husband, and Dr. Mary opens up about navigating the recent death of her brother. Together, they speak honestly about how they've found ways to keep living—and even experiencing joy—through it all.

In this episode, they discuss:

• The role of fascia in nervous system regulation, movement, and emotional processing
• How emotions like grief, anger, and fear can physically show up in the body
• What “self-care” really means
• The difference between pain and suffering—and how mindset, movement, and awareness shape both
• How to support your clients (and yourself) when emotions surface

Whether you're a healthcare provider, movement professional, or just someone trying to feel more at home in your body, this conversation blends science, story, and soul in a way that might just change how you approach pain, emotions, and healing.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:20 Meet Sue Hitzmann: Her Journey and the MELT Method
01:21 Diving into Fascia: Understanding Its Importance
03:33 Sue's Personal Story: From Pain to Discovery
07:26 The Role of Fascia in Health and Longevity
09:03 Challenges in Medical Understanding of Fascia
12:56 The Nervous System and Its Impact on Health
23:24 Managing Stress and Emotional Health
32:08 The Broken Healthcare System and Insurance Issues
34:27 Advocating for Her Mother’s Care
35:13 Understanding the Healthcare System
35:47 The Reality of Suffering and Grief
36:20 Choosing Resilience Over Suffering
37:56 Sharing Personal Stories About Grief
39:17 Living in the Present Moment
49:11 Managing Stress and the Nervous System
52:31 Embracing Emotions and Healing
01:02:38 The Importance of Self-Care
01:03:38 Conclusion and Contact Information

You can learn more about Sue and her work at: https://meltmethod.com

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