In this thought-provoking episode, Tonya Papanikolov sits down with writer, strategist, and multidimensional creator Michelle Pellizzon to explore the tension between ambition and authenticity, mystery and mastery, and how we can live project-based lives without burning out. From embracing confusion to rethinking productivity, Michelle shares insights on creative evolution, spiritual agency, and her own journey of building a peaceful, self-defined life. The two dive into desire, competition, mystery, and the strange beauty of letting go of control — even when life feels unpredictable.

You’ll hear about:

• The value of embracing mystery and the unknown and why confusion can be a creative superpower
• The concept of “project-based living” and how it liberates creators from linear career paths
• The role of mystery, reverence, and ruthlessly clear values in modern life
• Redefining jealousy, competition, and desire as creative information
• How AI is changing creativity — and how to keep our human spark alive
• Finding peace and joy amid uncertainty and change

Connect with Michelle Pellizzon: 

Website: holisticism.com 

Instagram: instagram.com/holisticism/

Substack: thetwelfthhouse.substack.com/

Podcast: thetwelfthhouse.substack.com/podcast

Connect with Tonya:

• Follow Tonya on Instagram: @tonyapapanikolove
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• Rainbo.com and @rainbomushrooms
• Try Fungki Mushroom Coffee
• Try Fungki Herbal Mushroom Coffee

Resources: Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

A Project of One's Own Essay by Paul Graham

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