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In this mind-blowing episode, I sit down with Dr. Bill Schindler — archaeologist, chef, and author of "Eat Like a Human" — to expose the shocking truth about how modern food processing is literally poisoning us and why ancient food wisdom holds the key to reclaiming our health.

From revealing why 99% of "sourdough" bread in stores is fake to explaining how Wonder Bread takes one hour to make while real sourdough takes days, Dr. Bill destroys everything we think we know about nutrition and shows us why our ancestors were nutritional geniuses we've completely ignored.

Whether you're struggling with mysterious digestive issues, tired of conflicting diet advice, or ready to understand why real food tastes nothing like what's in your supermarket, this conversation will revolutionize how you think about every bite you take.

What we cover: 

✔️ Why we're the first generation with obesity AND malnutrition in the same person 

✔️ The terrifying truth about what they do to milk (hint: it's not food anymore) 

✔️ How to spot fake sourdough bread (99% of store-bought is counterfeit) 

✔️ Why potato skins might be slowly poisoning you 

✔️ Plant toxins decoded: what to eat, what to avoid, and how to prepare safely 

✔️ The ancient fermentation secrets that make gluten digestible for celiacs 

✔️ Why seasonal eating solves 90% of plant toxin problems 

✔️ How Wonder Bread vs. real sourdough shows everything wrong with modern food 

✔️ The connection between food fear and nutritional anxiety 

✔️ Why your diet today won't be your diet forever (and that's normal)

Dr. Bill doesn't just share recipes — he reveals how reconnecting with ancient food wisdom can heal our modern health crises while still enjoying foods we love.

Timestamps: 

00:00 – From overweight archaeologist to discovering ancient food wisdom 

04:46 – How modern food processing created the first malnourished obese generation 

07:29 – The Olestra chips story: when "fat-free" goes horribly wrong 

12:27 – Why fortified foods are Frankenstein nutrition 

14:44 – The milk scandal: how they destroy then "fortify" real nutrition 

22:44 – Childhood farm memories vs. modern food disconnection 

31:22 – Fake sourdough exposed: how to spot real vs. counterfeit bread 

40:01 – Why Dr. Bill's family eats pizza weekly (and how it's actually healthy) 

43:20 – Diet flexibility: why your current diet isn't forever 

53:17 – Sourdough pancakes: healthier than bread and easier to make 

59:47 – Plant toxins decoded: the truth about what to fear and what to embrace 

01:11:49 – Potato skin controversy: ancient wisdom vs. modern marketing

Resources:

• Get Dr. Bill Schindler’s Book, "Eat Like a Human": https://modernstoneage.com/


• Follow Dr. Bill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbillschindler/


• Visit Modern Stone Age Kitchen restaurant in Chestertown, Maryland: https://modernstoneage.com/


• Check out Dr. Bill’s website: modernstonagekitchen.com

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