Jeremy Fernandez and Michael Rowland are two of Australia’s most well-respected broadcasters and journalists. Jeremy has worked in various roles at the ABC, the 7 network and CNN International. He is one of the countries most versatile presenters, having hosted live broadcasts of Sydney Mardi Gras, New Years Eve, Australia Day Live and both state and federal elections. He currently co-hosts “Not Stupid’ a fantastic podcast with the equally fantastic Julia Baird and presents ABC news NSW nightly from Monday-Friday.

Michael Rowland is just as prolific with roles as a Business and Finance reporter, a Victorian state political reporter, and as the ABC’s US correspondent. He’s the former president of the Melbourne Press Club. Since 2019, he has co-hosted ABC breakfast television program and in 2019 took on the more expanded role as ABC’s senior network presenter. He’s also a proud ambassador for the Western Bulldogs Community Foundation.

In this episode we discuss:

-How uncomplicated and simple their lives are outside the rigours of work.

-The importance of detaching themselves from the news when they aren’t working.

-Michael being innately shy and introverted and learning to embrace the camera by ‘putting on’ the mask.

-Jeremy’s endless pursuit of joy and peace in the current world we live in.

-The wild world of misinformation, disinformation, agenda‘s and click bait.

-Michael using exercise as a vessel for switching off and letting off steam, when he has to put such a lid on his emotions on air.

-Jeremy being told that the colour of his skin will hold him back and his harrowing experience of racism travelling on a bus with his daughter.

-What the secret sauce for building resilience might be.

-Why you shouldn’t choose far away figures to be your heroes and who their heroes are.

-Michael’s shocking injury which almost resulted in his eye being removed.

-The quotes that have shaped their lives.

-The importance of poetry and song, and the lost art of pondering, remuneration and taking our time.

-What service means to them and how they choose to serve beyond their professional pursuits.

This episode is one of my absolute favourites, full of openness, vulnerability, intelligence and a tonne of valuable tools and wisdoms. Be sure to share your thoughts on it, by leaving a review.

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