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Legal Fallout from Biden's Exit (with Joyce Vance & Rick Hasen)

Legal Fallout from Biden's Exit (with Joyce Vance & Rick Hasen)

Update: 2024-07-234
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This podcast episode delves into the legal and political ramifications of Joe Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race and the potential nomination of Kamala Harris. The hosts, Preet Barara and Joyce Vance, along with legal expert Rick Hassan, discuss a range of issues, including potential legal challenges to Harris's nomination, the impact of state-specific ballot access rules, and the implications of campaign finance laws. The episode begins by examining potential legal challenges that could arise from Biden's withdrawal, focusing on ballot access deadlines, the use of campaign funds by Harris, and claims that the nomination process is illegitimate. The hosts explore the legal basis for such challenges, including the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA) and the role of state-level rules. The discussion then shifts to the practical aspects of ballot production and the impact of UOCAVA on election timelines. The hosts explain how these factors influence the timing of legal challenges and the overall election process. The episode also addresses the claim that Biden's withdrawal and Harris's potential nomination constitute a "coup," debunking this argument by explaining the democratic process involved in presidential nominations, including the role of delegates and party rules. The hosts then analyze the potential use of the Biden-Harris campaign funds by Kamala Harris if she becomes the nominee, examining the legal implications of this scenario, including the limits on candidate-to-candidate transfers and the potential for legal challenges from Republicans. The episode concludes by exploring the broader context of election litigation in the United States, highlighting the increase in lawsuits since the 2000 election. The hosts anticipate continued litigation throughout the election cycle and the potential for challenges even after election day.

Outlines

00:00:00
Legal Challenges and the Democratic Nomination

This episode explores the legal and political implications of Joe Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race and the potential nomination of Kamala Harris, examining potential legal challenges, campaign finance issues, and the broader context of election litigation.

00:00:33
Ballot Access Deadlines and State-Specific Rules

The hosts delve into specific state-level rules regarding ballot access deadlines, particularly in Ohio and Washington state. They discuss the potential for legal challenges based on these deadlines and the arguments that could be made.

00:09:30
Campaign Finance Implications and the Biden-Harris War Chest

The discussion turns to the potential use of the Biden-Harris campaign funds by Kamala Harris if she becomes the nominee. The hosts analyze the legal implications of this scenario, including the limits on candidate-to-candidate transfers and the potential for legal challenges from Republicans.

00:27:10
Ongoing Election Litigation and the Fight Till Inauguration Day

The hosts discuss the broader context of election litigation in the United States, highlighting the increase in lawsuits since the 2000 election. They anticipate continued litigation throughout the election cycle and the potential for challenges even after election day.

Keywords

Kamala Harris


Kamala Harris is the current Vice President of the United States and a potential Democratic nominee for president in the 2024 election. She served as a U.S. Senator from California from 2017 to 2021 and previously served as Attorney General of California.

Joe Biden


Joe Biden is the current President of the United States. He served as Vice President under Barack Obama from 2009 to 2017 and previously served as a U.S. Senator from Delaware from 1973 to 2009.

Ballot Access


Ballot access refers to the process by which candidates qualify to appear on the ballot in an election. Each state has its own rules and deadlines for ballot access, which can vary significantly.

UOCAVA


The Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA) is a federal law that ensures that military personnel and overseas citizens have the right to vote in federal elections. It requires that ballots be available to these voters at least 45 days before the election.

Campaign Finance


Campaign finance refers to the rules and regulations governing the raising and spending of money in political campaigns. These laws aim to ensure fairness and transparency in elections and prevent undue influence by wealthy donors.

FEC


The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency that enforces campaign finance laws in the United States. It investigates complaints, enforces rules, and provides guidance on campaign finance matters.

Rule 11


Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure allows for sanctions against lawyers who bring frivolous or bad faith claims in federal court. This rule aims to deter lawyers from filing lawsuits without a reasonable basis.

Coup


A coup is a sudden, illegal seizure of power, typically by a military force or a small group of individuals. The term is often used to describe a violent overthrow of a government.

Super PAC


A Super PAC is a type of political action committee that can raise unlimited amounts of money from corporations, unions, and individuals. Super PACs are not allowed to coordinate directly with candidates, but they can spend independently to support or oppose them.

Q&A

  • What are the potential legal challenges that could arise from Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race?

    Potential challenges include disputes over ballot access deadlines, the use of campaign funds by Kamala Harris, and claims that the nomination process is illegitimate.

  • How do state-specific ballot access rules impact the timing of the Democratic nomination?

    States have different deadlines for candidates to qualify for the ballot, and these deadlines can create potential conflicts if the Democratic convention is held late.

  • What is the "coup" argument being made by some Trump supporters, and why is it inaccurate?

    The argument claims that Biden's withdrawal and Harris's potential nomination constitute a coup. This is inaccurate because the nomination process is governed by party rules and is not a violent overthrow of power.

  • What are the legal implications of Kamala Harris potentially using the Biden-Harris campaign funds?

    There are limits on candidate-to-candidate transfers, and Republicans may challenge Harris's access to these funds. However, most campaign finance lawyers believe she is legally entitled to use them.

  • Could state-level legal action be taken against the Harris campaign, and what are the potential consequences?

    While unlikely, state-level legal action is possible, particularly regarding campaign finance violations. Lawyers who bring frivolous claims could face sanctions under Rule 11.

  • How do campaign donations work in this scenario, and can individuals who have already donated to Biden also donate to Harris?

    If Harris is using the Biden-Harris committee, individuals who have already maxed out their donations to Biden should not donate more. However, there are other avenues for supporting the Harris campaign, such as Super PACs and other political committees.

  • What other types of legal proceedings are likely to occur in the lead-up to the 2024 election?

    In addition to challenges related to Harris's nomination, there are likely to be numerous lawsuits regarding mail-in ballots, voter challenges, and other election-related issues.

  • What is the significance of the "fight till inauguration day" rhetoric used by some Trump supporters?

    This rhetoric suggests a willingness to challenge the election results even after the official outcome is determined, raising concerns about potential disruptions and challenges to the democratic process.

Show Notes

On a special episode of Stay Tuned, Preet Bharara is joined by his CAFE Insider co-host and former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance and UCLA law professor and founder of Election Law Blog Rick Hasen to discuss the legal dilemmas stemming from President Joe Biden’s decision to exit the presidential race. Could Republican legal challenges interfere with the election? And, if Vice President Kamala Harris becomes the Democratic nominee, does she inherit Biden’s war chest?


In the bonus, exclusively for members of CAFE Insider, Preet and Joyce discuss the resignation of Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle after her testimony before the House Oversight Committee about the failed assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. Sign up to listen. 


For show notes and a transcript of the episode click HERE


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Legal Fallout from Biden's Exit (with Joyce Vance & Rick Hasen)

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