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Episode 78: Can bold marketing stunts and radical creativity really shape the success of an AI company? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) is joined by guest host Carly Baker (https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlycbaker)from HubSpot and Varun Anand (https://x.com/vxanand), COO and co-founder at Clay—an AI platform for go-to-market teams.

In this episode, Varun reveals the unconventional approach Clay takes to brand and product—from quirky billboards (inspired by artists like Picasso and Monet) to full-time brand team investments and viral “creative stunts”.. You’ll hear inside stories about building buzz through drone-captured campaigns, rolling out unforgettable real-world events (from Snoop Dogg’s joint roller classes to kung fu film shoots), and the value of hiring people from non-traditional backgrounds. Plus: inventive customer use cases, the philosophy of curiosity in AI, and how Clay pivoted from “fancy spreadsheets” to a leading go-to-market AI solution.

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Show Notes:

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  (00:00 ) Brand Team Investment Debate

  
  


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  (04:03 ) Creative Stunt Strategist Hired

  
  


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  (06:39 ) Importance of IRL Brand Experiences

  
  


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  (10:20 ) New Grad Rotational Program

  
  


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  (13:21 ) Natural Curiosity in Interviews

  
  


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  (18:28 ) Encouraging Curiosity in the AI Era

  
  


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  (19:28 ) High School Dropout Wins Fields Medal

  
  


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  (24:13 ) Integrating Tools into Daily Life

  
  


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  (26:03 ) Redefining Business Ambition with Clay

  
  

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Mentions:

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  Carly Baker: https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/author/carly-baker

  
  


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  Varun Anand: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaanand

  
  


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  Clay: https://www.clay.com/

  
  


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  Notion: https://www.notion.com/

  
  


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  Lovable: https://lovable.dev/

  
  


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  Mindstream: https://www.mindstream.news/

  
  

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• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow

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Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

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  Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/

  
  


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  Blog - https://lore.com/

  
  

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