What if "nature therapy" didn't have to mean hiking boots, wilderness permits, or a 60-pound backpack? In this refreshingly down-to-earth conversation, Elena Kopel—a compassion-focused, anti-oppression, nature-based therapist—joins Allison Puryear to challenge the gatekeeping of the "outdoorsy" world and remind us that nature is everywhere: in your office plant, your client's window view, even the sound of rain on your white-noise machine. Together, they explore how trauma, privilege, and accessibility shape our connection to the natural world, why repairing that relationship can be deeply healing, and how to bring nature into therapy without ever leaving the room. It's part clinical insight, part existential rewilding, and completely Not Boring.

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