In this episode, we consider chapter 8 of Dōgen's Shōbōgenzō, which is Raihai-tokuzai or 'Prostrating to the Marrow of Attainment.' After clarifying the distinction between 'marrow' the vegetable and 'marrow' meaning the essence of something, we go on to explore the key theme of the chapter, which is sincerity in relation to the Dharma. More specifically, Dōgen offers a vision of Dharma practice that goes beyond status or formal role and insists that we should be open to hear the Dharma from anyone who embodies it. As part of this insistence, he opens the (for the time) radical possibility of men hearing the Dharma from women, of seniors hearing the Dharma from juniors, and of monks hearing the Dharma from laypeople. Thus, he insists that what is primary is the going for refuge of each person rather than their particular lifestyle or ecclesiastical status.