In this episode Dayamati and I discuss Thomas Kasulis' chapter on Shinran from his book 'Engaging Japanese Philosophy.' Kasulis offers a stimulating and imaginative sketch of Shinran's religious vision. He gives an account of key concepts such as 'hakarai' (the calculating mind), the notion of lateral transcendence (or crosswise transcendence), and the notion of Amida-for-us and Amida-in-itself. As part of this discussion, we offer a reflection on differing models of the Buddhist path and of awakening and how these may relate to Subhuti's model of the Three Myths. We conclude that it is not easy to fit differing models of awakening into simple categories. Overall, this episode offers an overview of some of Shinran's key emphases.