How do you turn a simple idea into a global HR solution?

In this episode of The Founder Files, we sit down with Francois de Wet, founder of Wamly, an HR tech company transforming the way businesses hire. What started as a video interview platform has evolved into a full end-to-end hiring solution used in 147 countries.

From navigating customer churn to learning the power of community-driven product building, Fran shares the real lessons behind scaling Wamly, co-creating with clients, and staying adaptable in a fast-changing market.

We dive into:

• How Wamly pivoted from video interviews to an all-in-one hiring tool

• Lessons learned from early churn and rebuilding trust

• The importance of co-creating solutions with customers

• Scaling across 147 countries while staying lean

• Building resilience as a founder in HR tech

This episode is packed with insights on growth, adaptability, and the future of recruitment technology.

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00:00 Introduction

05:49 From video interviews to HR tech: How Wamly started

07:35 Why listening to clients changed everything

16:10 The 4 data points that predict job success

21:14 How Wamly brings science into recruitment

29:34 Why the War for talent demands faster hiring

38:20 The painful truth behind why we had to pivot

52:57 Building an all-in-one hiring solution that stays simple

01:03:20 How Wamly used Wamly to build Wamly

01:09:55 The danger of complacency after you ‘Make It’

01:18:42 Imposter syndrome and the founder’s burden

01:30:57 The leadership lesson that nearly broke me