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S06E04 - Brillyn Toh & Kat Aziz - Passion Needs Systems, Money Needs Discipline

S06E04 - Brillyn Toh & Kat Aziz - Passion Needs Systems, Money Needs Discipline

Update: 2025-11-26
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What does it mean to inherit a business that wasn’t your dream — but becomes your responsibility, your teacher, and eventually, your purpose?


In this episode of Clean Your Toilet, Brillyn Toh sits down with Kat Aziz for a grounded, deeply human conversation about legacy, identity, and the emotional labour of running one of Singapore’s most beloved second-hand institutions: Hock Siong.


Most people know Hock Siong for its pre-loved furniture, kampung charm, and the unspoken warmth of a family-run business. But behind the scenes is a daughter navigating expectations, change, and the quiet question many second-generation leaders carry:

“If this path wasn’t chosen by me, can I still make it mine?”


Brillyn opens up about growing up watching her parents build a business from necessity and grit, and the moment she realised that stewardship is a calling of its own. She speaks candidly about modernising a legacy brand without losing its soul, dealing with the pressure to honour what came before, and the complexity of leading teams who are called to evolve and transform as well.


This is not a story about overnight success. It’s about slow leadership, anchored values, and learning to grow into a role that chooses you long before you choose it.


Throughout the conversation, Brillyn and Kat explore:


✨ What makes a legacy worth protecting — and what needs to change for it to survive

✨ How financial responsibility shapes passion, purpose, and boundaries

✨ Why second-generation entrepreneurs often feel torn between duty and desire

✨ The hidden emotional work of caring for staff, community, and customers

✨ The freedom that comes from redefining success on your own timeline


If you’ve ever struggled with expectation, inherited pressure, or the fear of disappointing the people who raised you…

If you’ve ever questioned whether the life you’re living is yours or something you inherited…

If you’re learning what it means to honour the past while building a future that feels true…


This episode will sit with you long after it ends.


🧼 Your story is allowed to evolve.

🚽 The legacy you inherited does not have to trap you — it can grow with you.

💛 And sometimes, the work that feels least chosen becomes the work that shapes you most.


#CleanYourToiletPodcast #GetReal #InnerWork #PersonalMastery #WhatTrulyMatters #MoneyAndPassion #PersonalTransformation

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S06E04 - Brillyn Toh & Kat Aziz - Passion Needs Systems, Money Needs Discipline

S06E04 - Brillyn Toh & Kat Aziz - Passion Needs Systems, Money Needs Discipline

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