S15 E60: Andrey Sabelnikov & Pavel Nikienkov on Zano & Privacy
Update: 2024-10-16
Description
Andrey Sabelnikov has a history with the CryptoNote protocol, and even worked under pseudonymous Monero grandfather Nicholas von Saberhagen. Recently, he built Zano with Pavel Nikienkov. It's a protocol for issuing tokens with good privacy.
Time Stamps:
Introducing Andrey & Pavel (00:00:54 )
What is Zano? (00:02:46 )
Hybrid Consensus Mechanism (00:04:50 )
Challenges of Proof of Stake (00:07:15 )
Security Aspects of Consensus (00:10:27 )
Cost of Attacks on Consensus (00:13:13 )
Nation-State Threats (00:15:09 )
Open Source Development (00:18:00 )
User Control and System Integrity (00:20:07 )
User Interface (21:24 )
Decentralization in Zano (21:51 )
Mobile Application Concerns (22:30 )
Integration with Cake Wallet & Bitcoin.com (23:13 )
Sideshift & Starkware (24:31 )
Introduction to Zano (25:59 )
Zano's Technology Overview (26:40 )
History with Monero (27:40 )
Collaboration with Monero Developers (29:51 )
Background in Bitcoin? (31:44 )
Nicholas von Saberhagen's Role in Monero & Zano (32:55 )
Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Satoshi (35:19 )
Support from Nicholas von Saberhagen (36:02 )
Addressing Community Drama (38:28 )
Defending Developers Against Conspiracy Theories (40:24 )
The Negative Narrative Around Privacy (00:42:10 )
Infighting in the Privacy Field (00:43:06 )
Polarization Among Blockchain Projects (00:43:51 )
Criticism of Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake (00:44:34 )
Historical Innovations in Privacy Projects (00:45:51 )
Community Dynamics in Crypto Projects (00:47:41 )
Privacy as a Niche Market (00:49:34 )
Tribalism in Wallet Choices (00:50:16 )
Misconceptions About Monero's Origins (00:51:13 )
Support and Community in Early Crypto (00:55:14 )
Comparing Zano and Monero (00:59:38 )
Zano Token Issuance and Privacy (01:02:45 )
Monero's Privacy Advantages (01:03:14 )
Future of Zano's Privacy (01:04:48 )
Appreciation of Honesty (01:05:29 )
Liquidity and Usability (01:06:18 )
Building Private Stablecoins (01:07:50 )
Consensus Mechanism Comparison (01:08:39 )
Debating Consensus Models (01:09:45 )
Market Influence of Discussion (01:11:51 )
Privacy of Issued Assets (01:12:30 )
Zano Wallet Experiment (01:14:51 )
Batch Transactions Limitations (01:15:36 )
Technological Limitations Explained (01:19:18 )
Decentralization and Project Economics (01:20:34 )
Discussion on Monero Fees (01:23:06 )
Zano's Emission Strategy (01:23:30 )
Clarifying Staking Misconceptions (01:24:35 )
Challenges of Scaling Zano (01:27:28 )
Transaction Speed and Validation (01:30:25 )
Future Plans for Fee Market (01:33:59 )
Discussion on Zano's Fees (01:35:35 )
Audience Questions on Tax and Premium (01:36:41 )
Whitelist Functionality in Zano Wallet (01:38:44 )
Confidential Layer Project (01:40:31 )
Adoption of Full Chain Membership Proof (01:42:13 )
Zano's Domain Name Feature (01:44:24 )
Zano's Core Features (01:44:59 )
Comparison to Ethereum Name Service (01:45:32 )
Origins of Namecoin (01:46:20 )
Skepticism About Bitcoin (01:47:17 )
Namecoin Functionality (01:49:20 )
Decentralization Trends (01:50:32 )
Zano Fee Burn Rate (01:51:08 )
End Goals of Zano (01:51:44 )
Privacy Misconceptions (01:52:31 )
Transparency in Ethereum (01:54:03 )
Bitcoin Privacy Concerns (01:55:03 )
Criminal Definitions and Taxation (01:56:30 )
Living in 2017? (01:58:17 )
Bitcoin Maximalism vs. Alternative Projects (01:59:21 )
Current State of Bitcoin Privacy & Fungibility (02:02:00 )
Future of Zano (02:06:10 )
Competing with Monero (02:08:10 )
Industry Influence on Zano (02:09:40 )
Tokenization and Practical Applications (02:10:18 )
Competition from Tari (02:12:52 )
Recognition Despite Size (02:20:06 )
Legal Risks for Privacy Developers (02:21:06 )
Community Support and Development (02:18:54 )Final Thoughts on Zano (02:23:12 )
Use Cases for Zano (02:25:15 )
Market Value of Privacy (02:26:16 )
Following Zano's Work (02:26:35 )
Twitter and Engagement Challenges (02:28:05 )
Sending Bitcoin Takeover Zano Tokens (02:28:47 )
Mobile Wallet Features (02:29:35 )
Caution with Impersonators (02:30:07 )
Closing Remarks (02:31:06 )
Time Stamps:
Introducing Andrey & Pavel (00:00:54 )
What is Zano? (00:02:46 )
Hybrid Consensus Mechanism (00:04:50 )
Challenges of Proof of Stake (00:07:15 )
Security Aspects of Consensus (00:10:27 )
Cost of Attacks on Consensus (00:13:13 )
Nation-State Threats (00:15:09 )
Open Source Development (00:18:00 )
User Control and System Integrity (00:20:07 )
User Interface (21:24 )
Decentralization in Zano (21:51 )
Mobile Application Concerns (22:30 )
Integration with Cake Wallet & Bitcoin.com (23:13 )
Sideshift & Starkware (24:31 )
Introduction to Zano (25:59 )
Zano's Technology Overview (26:40 )
History with Monero (27:40 )
Collaboration with Monero Developers (29:51 )
Background in Bitcoin? (31:44 )
Nicholas von Saberhagen's Role in Monero & Zano (32:55 )
Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Satoshi (35:19 )
Support from Nicholas von Saberhagen (36:02 )
Addressing Community Drama (38:28 )
Defending Developers Against Conspiracy Theories (40:24 )
The Negative Narrative Around Privacy (00:42:10 )
Infighting in the Privacy Field (00:43:06 )
Polarization Among Blockchain Projects (00:43:51 )
Criticism of Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake (00:44:34 )
Historical Innovations in Privacy Projects (00:45:51 )
Community Dynamics in Crypto Projects (00:47:41 )
Privacy as a Niche Market (00:49:34 )
Tribalism in Wallet Choices (00:50:16 )
Misconceptions About Monero's Origins (00:51:13 )
Support and Community in Early Crypto (00:55:14 )
Comparing Zano and Monero (00:59:38 )
Zano Token Issuance and Privacy (01:02:45 )
Monero's Privacy Advantages (01:03:14 )
Future of Zano's Privacy (01:04:48 )
Appreciation of Honesty (01:05:29 )
Liquidity and Usability (01:06:18 )
Building Private Stablecoins (01:07:50 )
Consensus Mechanism Comparison (01:08:39 )
Debating Consensus Models (01:09:45 )
Market Influence of Discussion (01:11:51 )
Privacy of Issued Assets (01:12:30 )
Zano Wallet Experiment (01:14:51 )
Batch Transactions Limitations (01:15:36 )
Technological Limitations Explained (01:19:18 )
Decentralization and Project Economics (01:20:34 )
Discussion on Monero Fees (01:23:06 )
Zano's Emission Strategy (01:23:30 )
Clarifying Staking Misconceptions (01:24:35 )
Challenges of Scaling Zano (01:27:28 )
Transaction Speed and Validation (01:30:25 )
Future Plans for Fee Market (01:33:59 )
Discussion on Zano's Fees (01:35:35 )
Audience Questions on Tax and Premium (01:36:41 )
Whitelist Functionality in Zano Wallet (01:38:44 )
Confidential Layer Project (01:40:31 )
Adoption of Full Chain Membership Proof (01:42:13 )
Zano's Domain Name Feature (01:44:24 )
Zano's Core Features (01:44:59 )
Comparison to Ethereum Name Service (01:45:32 )
Origins of Namecoin (01:46:20 )
Skepticism About Bitcoin (01:47:17 )
Namecoin Functionality (01:49:20 )
Decentralization Trends (01:50:32 )
Zano Fee Burn Rate (01:51:08 )
End Goals of Zano (01:51:44 )
Privacy Misconceptions (01:52:31 )
Transparency in Ethereum (01:54:03 )
Bitcoin Privacy Concerns (01:55:03 )
Criminal Definitions and Taxation (01:56:30 )
Living in 2017? (01:58:17 )
Bitcoin Maximalism vs. Alternative Projects (01:59:21 )
Current State of Bitcoin Privacy & Fungibility (02:02:00 )
Future of Zano (02:06:10 )
Competing with Monero (02:08:10 )
Industry Influence on Zano (02:09:40 )
Tokenization and Practical Applications (02:10:18 )
Competition from Tari (02:12:52 )
Recognition Despite Size (02:20:06 )
Legal Risks for Privacy Developers (02:21:06 )
Community Support and Development (02:18:54 )Final Thoughts on Zano (02:23:12 )
Use Cases for Zano (02:25:15 )
Market Value of Privacy (02:26:16 )
Following Zano's Work (02:26:35 )
Twitter and Engagement Challenges (02:28:05 )
Sending Bitcoin Takeover Zano Tokens (02:28:47 )
Mobile Wallet Features (02:29:35 )
Caution with Impersonators (02:30:07 )
Closing Remarks (02:31:06 )
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