Serial S01 - Ep. 5: Route Talk
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Adnan once issued a challenge to Sarah. He told her to test the state’s timeline of the murder by driving from Woodlawn High School to Best Buy in 21 minutes. It can’t be done, he said. So Sarah and Dana take up the challenge, and raise him one: They try to recreate the entire route that Jay said he and Adnan took on January 13th, 1999.
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here's my theory, the girl hey goes to best buy alone to meet jay to buy weed. jay sets hey up, he and ednon preplanned this. jay meets hey at best buy and says I don't have the weed we're going to have to go get it, jay calls ednon who's waiting around the corner. ednon shows up pretended everything is cool. ednon gets in hey's car, jay follows in his car, the two guys have made up a story "we gotta go somewhere else to get the weed". they go to park n ride. jay is possibly only the lookout, who knows, hey is killed at the park n ride. they leave her in the trunk, get in Jay's car possibly shook up and try to figure out what to do next.
if you think of Jay's confession like this, jay confesses because he believes enon will eventually confess. so essentially jay is trying to minimize his involvement. enon never confesses therefore Jay's story gets muddy because his confession is not combating the other guys confession. most likely jay was present during the murder.
to me seems like maybe this Jay guy did it.
Jay did it. Changing stories. Why was he even a credible witness? Nothing he said made sense.
the school, this many years later, could have had less bussed students. maybe a neighborhood went up nearby and there were more kids walking. you cant do a controlled experiment like that.
I am struggling really hard with this episode, because although you and Dana sought to prove that it was possible for it to occur in 21 minutes; you only gave a minute and a half for strangulation. It would be impossible for manual strangulation to kill someone in a minute and a half, it takes at least four to five minutes. a person can survive without air for over 3 minutes, not to mention in another similar case, it was proved that it took at least 4 minutes to kill someone by manual strangulation. Thus, completely disproving the state's timeline.
I think jay did it he had motives and he had the phone and car the perfect set up.
Why isn't project innocence involved?
Jay is super shady....are we sure HE didnt do it
So far this case is crazy
The informations are changing every now and then. Many vital evidence are there but weren't ever been checked or confirmed. Witnesses were never contacted. About Jay, he does suspicious but it would be too obvious if he actually turns out to be the murderer.
sorry that you all missed the BIG PICTURE... Jawan is the main guy in this episode. if Adnon is guilty and what Jay is saying is true... for adnon to take Jawan and have a smoke sesh right where he killed Hae is beyond creepy...if it's TRUE, or is that proof that he didn't do it? if he did,why take Jawan there? I need to know more about jawan. how close was he and Adnon? what did they talk about in the car? how long after hae went missing did this "sesh" happen? for how long did it last? how did adnon seem to jawan? was Adnan try to confess to jawan? what time of the day was this? was Jay and jawan friends? LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK
Did the go on their own Blunt ride? Dana is giggling a lot.
I really don't get how the investigators believed any of this. You kill your girlfriend at 230 in the afternoon in a busy parking lot and carry her body to your trunk. You call a dude you've smoked weed with a couple times to help you dispose of the body. You smoke a bunch of weed and go to track practice an hour late?! I don't know about you, but running while high sounds like torture lol. The guy you with this information is changing his story every time you talk to him. I call this really, really incompetent police work.
why would he ask a acquaintance for help over doing it on his own why would Jay work so hard to cover his tracks why did Mr s walk so far in to the woods to pee for privacy when he streaked all the time? I don't see how a conviction was made so far so I'm excited to hear more
The way adnan describes things, he speaks in the manner that an innocent man would. The way jay speaks is in the manner of someone whose lying. "Jay, did you kill Hae?" Jay responds "no sir, I did not." an innocent man would not say it like that. They would say "no, I didn't." A guilty man will speak more formally because it makes them feel secure. Famous example of this is Bill Clinton's "I did not have sexual relations with that woman. " We all know that was a lie.
owings mill mall isnt the closest mall from woodland high, security mall is right up the street . whats up ?