Dr. Brian Capra (00:01 .735)

Hey everyone, welcome to the Ultimate Achievers Club Best Practices podcast. What we hope for you is that you hear from one of our real live members at the Ultimate Achievers Club. A little nugget, little piece of information, best practices, how they're running their practice, something they're doing in their life that's getting great results, something that you can grab onto and implement and get some similar results in your life or practice. Here with my co-host, Dr. Allen Miner. Doc, you want to take it away?

Dr. Allen Miner (00:30 .712)

Hey, thanks, Dr. Brian and we've got Dr. Scott Gamm with us today Dr. Scott I've known he was in UAC many years ago and then and then kind of upgraded his life and came back into UAC and Scott of all the people we talked to and in UAC I do think you have one of the most Unique practices out there and I know there's a lot we can share that will

Bless anybody listening. You're out of Decorah, Iowa, which is the northeast corner. You're kind of tucked up, not far from Minneapolis, Wisconsin. Largely an upper cervical kind of emphasis practice and you're in a community. I found this interesting. A town of 1700 people and there's 14 chiropractors.

Scott Gamm D.C. (01:17 .549)

There's about 7,000 people, but 14 chiropractors. And there's in every little town around here that are even the towns of 500 people still have a chiropractor. It's kind of the nature of it. Yeah, it's amazing.

Dr. Allen Miner (01:20 .788)

7,000 subs

Dr. Allen Miner (01:27 .444)

So I love it. You're in the middle of an Amish community. Am I saying that right? it Amish is the...

Scott Gamm D.C. (01:35 .501)

Yeah, so we have a huge Amish practice. I'm just going to tell the story of how that happened because they're not that close either. That's the unique thing is that we started, it all started with we had a midwife come in and she delivered over a thousand Amish babies. And the very first referral we got that was Amish was three years ago. And they brought in this baby and this baby's name was Rebecca and she was purple and she never stopped screaming. And she had this, face,

Dr. Allen Miner (01:39 .656)

Please, take away. okay.

Scott Gamm D.C. (02:04 .301)

was doing this, so it was twitching, and the opposite leg was shaking violently. They'd been to a medical doctor, a medical doctor neurologist, a chiropractor, a chiropractic neurologist, all within one month. This is how bad this baby was. And from the moment she woke up to the moment she went, she was bright purple and she screamed. And I've adjusted a few children. I've always had kind of a family practice, but I've never had a little kid come in like this.

Dr. Brian Capra (02:20 .881)

or

Dr. Allen Miner (02:26 .323)

Hmm.

Scott Gamm D.C. (02:35 .297)

That's the moment that I want everyone listening to this to really understand is that you are not in charge of that moment and God puts those people in front of you in that exact moment so that you can step into that moment and it's just to have that faith that Chiropractic we stand on the shoulders the giants who came before me. I don't have to create upper cervical chiropractic I don't have to create the concept of innate intelligence, but I have to be so good at honoring it and being so present with it

When I laid my hands on that little girl, I knew her atlas was severely subluxated. I laid my hands on her, I did an upper cervical adjustment, and I let her go. And it was about a 30 second thing and my ears were ringing, she screamed so loud. I said, bring her back next week. They brought her back next week. She was pretty much a normal color. Her face had had no more twitching. Her leg was just doing a little bit of that. Adjusted her again. I said, bring her back in two weeks. Brought her back in two weeks, normal baby.

Dr. Allen Miner (03:33 .564)

Great.

Scott Gamm D.C. (03:34 .379)

Three years, 2,500 referrals later.

Dr. Brian Capra (03:37 .971)

Dr. Allen Miner (03:38 .514)

And that's just because of the midwife who's part of the Amish community then became your champion.

Scott Gamm D.C. (03:43 .595)

Correct, yes. so, you know, when you talk about a referral basis, and now the Amish have a saying that an Amish mother will go to the moon to find a good chiropractor. Okay, and what that means is that they have been to every single chiropractor in the area. They don't, someone new comes out, they talk about things, they all kind of, one or two will go in there, they'll check them out, and if they get really good results, they agree with the philosophy, they'll start referring.

Dr. Allen Miner (03:54 .962)

Interesting.

Scott Gamm D.C. (04:13 .334)

But it's very, very sporadic. so when we were just honestly so far advanced in our understanding of the upper cervical philosophy, and when these patients are coming in, they don't come into you because my neck hurt, maybe I had a headache or something like that. They come in you because you all of a sudden had become their primary form of healthcare. They're coming in you because subluxation is a real thing to them.

When you adjust them, they fully expect their nervous system to get turned on so fully that their body will heal. And if you can't deliver the goods, they'll go find somebody else.

Dr. Allen Miner (04:48 .69)

Scott, what do you see in, from the little bit I know about the Amish, I'd imagine they're in today's world a much less toxic group of people, which probably harkens back to maybe a hundred years ago, the kinds of people chiropractors got to adjust. There isn't the world today. Can you speak to that a little bit? What is it like taking care of people who don't have the technology and the toxicity that most of us live with?

Scott Gamm D.C. (05:08 .021)

Sure.

Scott Gamm D.C. (05:12 .202)

Yep. It's fascinating because they have the same toxicity of the foods. They do tend to grow their own foods. They grow them healthier and more naturally, but they still have airplanes flying over, dropping crap on us. Right? I mean, we still have, you know, glyphosate. We still have herbicides. We still have, they have tons of gut problems. They have major sugar problems. They have just as many problems with gluten, but they also go milk their own cow.

Dr. Brian Capra (05:40 .243)

All right.

Scott Gamm D.C. (05:40 .595)

So the dairy that they're getting is so much better than we can hardly ever process. And the fascinating thing is, is we had to modify our care schedule because we do 100 % cash, 100 % care plans. It's a million dollar clinic. It's a very busy place. And what we found is they have to go and get a driver. They load up the whole family. Like earlier today, we had two different van loads of people who come in. One came from four hours away. The other one came from two and a half hours away. Another group came up from about six hours away.

Dr. Allen Miner (05:40 .657)

Yeah.

Scott Gamm D.C. (06:09 .427)

And that was our morning shift. And these people are coming in and we had a little girl and they go, do you remember her? And I was like, no, I don't. Because we see so many of them, I don't remember a of the names. And we take care of kids about once a month until they get neurologically sound and then once a quarter for the rest of their life. That's what I tell them. And she goes, she was the one who had the facial, the Bell's policy. She couldn't smile. And she's like, smile at him. And she's like, she smiled, her face actually rose up. And I saw her one time a month ago.

Dr. Allen Miner (06:12 .146)

Have fun.

Dr. Allen Miner (06:25 .627)

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Allen Miner (06:31 .04)

wow.

Scott Gamm D.C. (06:37 .739)

And she'd had this from the time she was born. And she got an upper cervical adjustment, all of sudden she's able to smile. And I had another little girl, they come in and they go, I go anything change with her? And they go, well, we went out to eat right after the adjustment last time, last month. And she was at the restaurant and she goes, there's only one person. And they go, what do you mean? She goes, well, I've always seen two people.

Dr. Allen Miner (06:40 .015)

Wow, that's awesome.

Dr. Brian Capra (07:04 .742)

double vision. Holy cow. So best practices open near Amish communities and just save one life.

Scott Gamm D.C. (07:05 .995)

She had double vision and they couldn't figure it out and she got adjusted and it became one.

Dr. Allen Miner (07:06 .289)

Well, that was fun.

Scott Gamm D.C. (07:15 .506)

Not at all. Not at all. Because unless you're so good, they will blow by you. That's the thing about Amish. I'm surrounded by car drivers, don't see hardly a single Amish person. Yeah, so the best secret...

Dr. Allen Miner (07:16 .922)

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Dr. Brian Capra (07:23 .729)

Yeah, but they come in under the radar, you don't even know, you know.

Scott Gamm D.C. (07:28 .456)

Right, the best secret is to be so present and have so much actual true faith in the adjustment and that I believe that we should be that first person they ever go see is we all believe as chiropractors and yet within, we call them English a